surging through the rev range particularly cold

[05gtwagonman]

sorry to break it up, but you sydney boyz could hijack the qe2...
Back2it. Blackgt- I'm not entirely convinced about the cleaning. If that turns out to b the prob- then yourse isa not mine!...
The subi guys have cleaned everything, reclaibrated everything.... the only thing not changed for what ever reason is the o2. Despite trying my best, that is so far the one thing they have not changed. but they are looking hard. I suspect that you will feel smooth exceleration for two days but the cold problem will be quite bad if u test it, then within three days you will be right back there with the hot problem as the ecu adjusts to compensate for the problem...
Tell me if your brake pedal does anything weird...

[WhiteGTB]

Sorry Rich, seems like your post was hijacked abit...

Getting back to the issue at hand for ya, has your car ever been tuned for performance? (or was that only Mustafa's car?)

I dunno if this is any help, but with from I know and have experienced, Subaru have certain reference maps that it always will reference back to after a tune. Now if your tuner is a good one, he will know where to find these within the ECU and change THESE so after any tune it will revert back to the factory original.

This may be one of the reason's WHY when you first get the car back it works well, but the ECU then calibrates itself after 3-4 days and the problem re appears.

If anyone else knows any other information or can clarify this I'd be happy to know too

[05gtwagonman]

Interesting point trieu, I was considering this for a few moments as a posibility, as I was not the first owner... Then realising the Subaru blew up the ECU when they were reflashing it chasing this problem, and replaced it completely. So the answer there is no performance mod retune at all. Totally stock. Nice try though, I thought that you might have had it there for a moment.

The previous Guy- a dentist up the coast a bit, clearly had a problem with the slow reacting accelerator that is the fly by wire unit in these. The reflash and update got rid of a fair bit of the problem, but it is still one of the only things that i really dont like about these cars. Fly by wire throttle is one of those ' if it ain't broke don't fix it' situations.
A cable works well, and the immediacy is still something my car totally lacks.
Back to it tho- I will contact subi in the next day or two and see what they have to say, we should know more then. If there is nothing, it is my plan to tell them to change the o2 JIC...

[Spec B Wgn]

sorry to break it up, but you sydney boyz could hijack the qe2...
Back2it. Blackgt- I'm not entirely convinced about the cleaning. If that turns out to b the prob- then yourse isa not mine!...
The subi guys have cleaned everything, reclaibrated everything.... the only thing not changed for what ever reason is the o2. Despite trying my best, that is so far the one thing they have not changed. but they are looking hard. I suspect that you will feel smooth exceleration for two days but the cold problem will be quite bad if u test it, then within three days you will be right back there with the hot problem as the ecu adjusts to compensate for the problem...
Tell me if your brake pedal does anything weird...

they have adjusted his ecu to compensate... something Subaru wont do for you

[Spec B Wgn]

I dunno if this is any help, but with from I know and have experienced, Subaru have certain reference maps that it always will reference back to after a tune. Now if your tuner is a good one, he will know where to find these within the ECU and change THESE so after any tune it will revert back to the factory original.

This may be one of the reason's WHY when you first get the car back it works well, but the ECU then calibrates itself after 3-4 days and the problem re appears.

If anyone else knows any other information or can clarify this I'd be happy to know too

thats crap...

A good tuner using for example Ecutek will re-map the factory settings to take into account modifications , different boost settings etc ..

once reflashed with the new settings this overrides the poor factory settings. it wont revert backto the factory settings unless the ECU is refreshed with a factory map

[WhiteGTB]

thats crap...

How did I know you'd reply with something like this.......

The guys in Sydney have played around with the ECU (open ECU), got this information (first hand) from Kosti who has the plug and collects data. Can see the maps within the ECU. Ask him.

But if you think that is crap, then so be it... opinions are like arseholes everyone has one.

I am throwing up suggestions to try and help. Thought this MIGHT be the case, if not.. then well, I tired.

[Spec B Wgn]

thats crap...

How did I know you'd reply with something like this.......

The guys in Sydney have played around with the ECU (open ECU), got this information (first hand) from Kosti who has the plug and collects data. Can see the maps within the ECU. Ask him.

But if you think that is crap, then so be it... opinions are like arseholes everyone has one.

I am throwing up suggestions to try and help. Thought this MIGHT be the case, if not.. then well, I tired.

why post something you know nothing about ... are you trying to get your posts up..

Ive seen the maps myself so dont go there ... the point i was making is the ECU wont revert back to the factory settings if they are flashed and saved onto the factory ECU.. providing you have the software..

If the experts as you have said have made minor adjustments why not make them permanent on the ECU ??

[Spec B Wgn]

Now if your tuner is a good one, he will know where to find these within the ECU and change THESE so after any tune it will revert back to the factory original.

what are you on about ??

why would they change the settings to improve the car then have it revert back to the sh.t factory setting

[WhiteGTB]

Now if your tuner is a good one, he will know where to find these within the ECU and change THESE so after any tune it will revert back to the factory original.

what are you on about ??

why would they change the settings to improve the car then have it revert back to the sh.t factory setting

Your expecting an answer so here it is....

Typo - I meant "will not" revert back to factory shit settings. I agree.

Post count - No, was hoping to help out and shed some light.

Maps - Yes I have seen them too, ignition timing, raditor temps, boost control, etc, etc, I was amazed at how many settings there are... at different temps how much air/fuel ratio is required, how to adjust.... blah, blah, blah, I wish I could have taken a photo or print out cause it is very comprehensive.

My Own Car - Yes I have had mine tuned and after several re-tunes my car I believe is now running at it's optimum for the mods I have. This is how I have seen and gone through the maps.

You may have more knowledge, so it seems, so I am happy to take on your thoughts/opinions and learn.

This is getting and hijacking this post is not my aim.

Happy to discuss elsewhere.

[05gtwagonman]

Anyone got a flame suit trieu can borrow...?
It is a rather technical situation... I appriciate the help from both of you. At least you are both inputting some ideas...

[BlackGT]

I really appreaciate this thread and more so knowing some passionat people are discussing a problem which I happen to have. Words get mixed up, I'm certain if everyone was face to face there would be no blowups.

[WhiteGTB]

Keeping the peace and learning along the way... that's what it's all about.

[Spec B Wgn]

:lol: Keeping the peace and learning along the way... that's what it's all about.

yer my apologies Trieu ..

[WhiteGTB]

:lol: Keeping the peace and learning along the way... that's what it's all about.

yer my apologies Trieu ..

Apologies bud, all good.

As Ali G would put it... RESPECTA

[BlackGT]

This thread is giving the Melbourne girl intro a run for its money