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Re: Bolt on turbos

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:29 pm
by jaydece
kiahatsiu wrote:Take or leave the advice being tendered here. Tradtionally one does not critisize the advice being offered by people who have nearly accomplished your goals using more involved setups with larger turbos.


agreed! and here here 8)

Re: Bolt on turbos

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:05 pm
by KiDo_Tuning
knockoutgiant wrote:I feel like you guys think I don't know some of this stuff.

I know when getting near 300kw the motor, box and hell maybe even the diff will become extremely fragile.

I know 300kw for a 2.0 without engine work/ridiculous turbo is unlikely (Hence the reason I said *Want* and not *Will get*)

I'm also aware of the costs as I've said before, this is not going to be a budget build and I'm not trying to make it one. I've already spent roughly 9k on the Legacy just getting it to look how I want and the engine mods will be not different.

So let me make the "Criteria" clear aha. Basically I want it to be stock looking, stock looking enough that I can fit the stock engine cover over it once I'm done (I don't mind having to modify the cover to fit). I'd like 300kw but this is in NO WAY a necessity, I would still be thrilled with 220kw. I would more like a nice mix between spool and power rather than have the 300kw but not get it untill 5k. The Legacy will be used as a daily driver with the occasional trackday every once in a while.

Honestly.... I'm liking the sound of the twin scroll GTX2863R Kido's mentioning :lol:


Thats the cool bit about the GRB Spec C motor, fit the factory inlet manifold and your well on your way to making a factory looking engine bay. Factory location turbo, factory style TMIC(fit a Perrin or AVO if your worried about looks)
Thing is, the ancillary parts can be bolted to the factory engine until its time to go Spec C motor

Re: Bolt on turbos

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:15 pm
by knockoutgiant
jaydece wrote:
kiahatsiu wrote:Take or leave the advice being tendered here. Tradtionally one does not critisize the advice being offered by people who have nearly accomplished your goals using more involved setups with larger turbos.


agreed! and here here 8)


Never tried to critisize, simply saying my thoughts on the subject and trying to get the information I need in order to accomplish the build the way I have intended.

Either way, I would love to see a like or some info on this twin scroll GTX!

Also not really keen on fitting a Spec C motor.... If I were going to do that then I might aswell go for an all out build and try and make something ridiculous. However I'm keeping this a street car so mainly just after a little more power not a whole engine swap (Even so I'll look into it a see how much I can pick one up for if I ever decided to go down that route...)

Re: Bolt on turbos

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:36 pm
by dr20t
Hopefully this will help you:

Psr twin scroll headers
DEI titanium heat wrap x 3 50 ft rolls
Grimmspeed 3 port bcs
Atp Garrett gtx2873/76 Chra and comp cover
Kinugawa spec c twin scroll 10cm^2 rear housing (56 trim cover)
38mm turbosmart ewg
3" inlet of some sort - any will do - speak to jacks gtb on this forum for hook ups
Omni 4 bar map sensor
Grb jdm ej207 Sti TMIC or if you like spending $ Process west TMIC
Dw65c or walbro 255 fuel pump
Id1000 injectors with top feed conversion parralel rails or if side feed then sard 850cc side feeds
Turbosmart or sard fpr
3" turbo back exhaust (kinugawa twin scroll dump pipe collector will make this easier)
Retune by Matt or your local tuner

Total cost about 10k to do properly with labour or 7-8k if you do the fitting yourself.

Will make 220-240awkw on 21-22psi on 98 fuel or 250 plus on 100ron and a manual

/ end thread

Mick

Re: Bolt on turbos

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:25 pm
by jaydece
dr20t wrote:Hopefully this will help you:

Psr twin scroll headers
DEI titanium heat wrap x 3 50 ft rolls
Grimmspeed 3 port bcs
Atp Garrett gtx2873/76 Chra and comp cover
Kinugawa spec c twin scroll 10cm^2 rear housing (56 trim cover)
38mm turbosmart ewg
3" inlet of some sort - any will do - speak to jacks gtb on this forum for hook ups
Omni 4 bar map sensor
Grb jdm ej207 Sti TMIC or if you like spending $ Process west TMIC
Dw65c or walbro 255 fuel pump
Id1000 injectors with top feed conversion parralel rails or if side feed then sard 850cc side feeds
Turbosmart or sard fpr
3" turbo back exhaust (kinugawa twin scroll dump pipe collector will make this easier)
Retune by Matt or your local tuner

Total cost about 10k to do properly with labour or 7-8k if you do the fitting yourself.

Will make 220-240awkw on 21-22psi on 98 fuel or 250 plus on 100ron and a manual or E85 corn juice :lol: :P ( had to be said :wink: )

/ end thread / open thread / re end thread :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Mick

Re: Bolt on turbos

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:25 pm
by <GB>
Sell it and buy a Evo before it costs u an engine

Re: Bolt on turbos

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:07 pm
by dr20t
<GB> wrote:Sell it and buy a Evo before it costs u an engine


X 10

Re: Bolt on turbos

PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:38 am
by Sean82
<GB> wrote:Sell it and buy a Evo before it costs u an engine

Just put a JDM GRB 207 in... then start saving for a 6MT conversion... or a multitude of new centre diffs for the 5EAT...