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Xmas 2014 Tuning Special

Postby west_minist » Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:28 am

Dear All:

Please check out my Xmas Tuning special
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Have a great day!
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Re: Xmas 2014 Tuning Special

Postby geematt » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:08 pm

west_minist wrote:Dear All:

Please check out my Xmas Tuning special
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=27368

Have a great day!


Get on it ! A bargain for great service.
A great improvement in drivability of my stock H6.
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Re: Tuning the 3.0R by Xtreme Racing Tuning (Tuner: West_Min

Postby camerooney » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:04 am

Tactrix cable in the mail, Ed's amazingly good deal paid for, can't wait to get my Outback tuned
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Re: Tuning the 3.0R by Xtreme Racing Tuning (Tuner: West_Min

Postby camerooney » Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:10 pm

Feedback for XRT tuning.

Vehicle: 2006 ADM Outback H6 w/5EAT and ~135,000kms.
Mods: none apart from K+N filter.
Support: Tactrix cable, XP laptop. Cheap VAGCOM $15 ebay cable also managed to do some preliminary logging via Romraider.

Ed is very professional and prompt. Considering the time difference and his heavy work load some days he always made an effort to respond to my questions or provide updated tunes. My car is your standard everyday Outback H6. My main gripes with the car in its stock form was primarily sluggish transmission performance.

I'm sitting on Revision 5 of my tune now and its going really well. Transmission lag gone, significantly better driveability and more torque available through better torque map. I had some issues with pinging along the way, first few tunes were due to crappy fuel. I initially asked Ed to tune for 95RON but I've ended up transitioning to 98RON. I've yet to go back to 95 but I expect things would be okay. Logging is very easy, suggest to provide Ed with short/precise logs when troubleshooting pinging to make it easier for him. The most noticeable change to the car's performance is the throttle input, its now quite sensitive but you get used to it after awhile. I'm finding I'm driving everyday to work with probably 20-30% throttle rather than 60%+ on the stock tune, its just so much more effortless that you don't require any more throttle to make it go. Did I forget to mention that the dreaded 5EAT lag is also gone? In some scenarios it almost feels like driving a DSG equipped car, the shifts are just so much faster than stock.

I had one instance where the car felt like it was surging or not drinking fuel properly after a tune, an ECU reset via Romraider fixed this and a casual drive afterwards with another tank of fuel seemed to sort out the learning etc. After a semi-long drive (4hr round trip) the car felt much better. It seems a decent trip might help sort the car's various mappings/values and learning out? I don't know.

There is considerably more punch in 1st and 2nd gear, no more bogging down when pulling out onto a highway. Its no WRX but the H6 with Ed's tune pulls hard if you have your foot planted. I'll upload a short video when I get chance. My fuel economy on the stock tune was always quite good (8.0-9.0L/per100km average mix of highway and town). Highway economy seems unchanged, possibly better but only time will tell. Around town I seem to be sitting on 9.5L/10.0L which is slightly higher than stock but its a small tradeoff for having such improved driveability.

Thanks Ed for making my boring Outback a nice/effortless car to drive. I might be in contact for a retune for some headers... ;)

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Re: Tuning the 3.0R by Xtreme Racing Tuning (Tuner: West_Min

Postby west_minist » Sat Nov 29, 2014 9:58 pm

Thank you very much.
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Re: Tuning the 3.0R by Xtreme Racing Tuning (Tuner: West_Min

Postby camerooney » Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:54 pm

More feedback for Ed.

Have two more H6's in the family getting tuned at the moment. Another Outback 5EAT and a 3.0RB 6MT.

We were able to do an advanced version of the tune for the Outback based on mine which saved a lot of time. Version 1.0 is fantastic and a great improvement all round. Extremely fast shifting, loads more responsiveness and torque all through the rev-range. Still a work in progress, few tweaks required for shifting point and flat spot in 2nd but other than that, this tune has come around really quickly. My 06 Outback and the current tune 05 Outback are almost identical. The 05 has performance mufflers fitted and feels less restrictive all throughout the rev range. Its also running 95RON and feeling much the same if not faster than my car running 98RON. Just goes to show that every car is different and even the smallest of changes can impact the tune.

The Lib will begin V0 baseline logging tomorrow and will be very interesting to compare to the 5EAT.

Can't thank Ed enough for his responsiveness and fast turnaround time on this latest batch of tuning.
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Re: Tuning the 3.0R by Xtreme Racing Tuning (Tuner: West_Min

Postby shav » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:12 pm

Great to hear Cam.
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Germany Customer H6 3.0R Feedback on XRT Tuning

Postby west_minist » Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:42 am

http://www.xtremeracingtuning.com/forum ... f=48&t=562
StefanU-88 wrote:Hi everyone :)!

After the tuning process of my Legacy H6 3.0R MY05 with 5EAT is finished i wanted to say a few words about my impressions and feelings about the entire story. Excuse my wording here and there as English isn't my first language and I'm a bit rusty regarding that :lol:

I bought the car from a dealer who had it from Subaru of Germany in the beginning of 2013 as my new daily driver.
As a car that they used for their business purposes, it had covered only around 40.000 kilometers back than, a quite small number regarding the fact that it is one of the very early pre facelift models, built in 2004. On the downside, I assume that it stood around outdoors for a long time not being moved or only over short distances in the city of Friedberg where Subaru has it's HQ over here.

I replaced the entire rotten exhaust system with new RaptorSC headers, 200cpsi metallic catalytic converters and a new designed custom 2" cat back system with FOX performance silencers and contacted Edward afterwards to get everything tuned, lower the insane fuel consumption after the modification (the car didn't like the free flow exhaust system, consuming over 20 ltrs / 100km) and make everything feel a little bit more sporty.

From the beginning to the end, it was amazing to work with him. When I look back, I almost feel a little bit sorry for all the silly questions he had to answer, but he never lost patience and answered every single of them until everything was clear (even to me :P).

We went through a huge amount of tunes but things didn't go very well until i decided to replace the 10 years old front o2 sensors, which caused lots of problems and only worked from time to time. After that, the final tune was found pretty quickly, especially because Edward delievers new tunes in about no time.

I'm more then pleased with the outcome; not only that the consumption is down a lot (about 11,5 liters / 100 km driven hard in the range of 130kph up to 240 kph on the German Autobahn, often in 4th or even 3rd gear for maximum acceleration and a good amount below 10 liters / 100 km at chilled highway cruising), everything feels more responsive, the car isn't hitting the rev limiter anymore when using kickdown all the way up, it just feels fantastic. I have to admit that I don't know what exactly Edward did in the end to achieve this great feeling, but we went through different kinds of settings and after some short messages via Whatsapp he was able to achieve a result just like I wanted to for my daily driver and couldn't even describe with words.

Even if the car feels more sporty if you want to push it harder, there's much more power below the magical 3000rpm mark and the power band is very, very smooth (much smoother then OEM) and it still feels very drivable regarding every-day-use.

I don't know about power figures but actually I don't care at all; the car is hitting 260 km/h on the dashboard (around 245 GPS, before tuning around 235) and is doing 0-100 km/h in under 6.5seconds (no idea what it was before). Impressive if you imagine that it feels stronger at low rpm, too.

Long story short: That's how Subaru should have delivered the car out of the factory.

I'll contact Edward again next year regarding a tune for my JDM STI and after my dad - who drives a 3.6R Outback, we're a Subaru family here at the mountains - has driven the Legacy after the final tune for the first time, Edward can be sure that he has got a new customer at this moment. Right now we are waiting for the 3.6R's headers to arrive from RaptorSC :D.

After looking for a tuner for quite some time in Germany without a result, i've found the best I can imagine over this strange thing called internet 8000 kilometers away in Barbados.

Thank you very much for all your efforts Edward, they're priceless!

I recorded a little video today on my way from one valley to another here at the mountains, my last drive this year before mounting snow tires. Not too hard driven, but pushing it a little bit uphill. You can get the idea. And... sorry for the annoying sounds the full box of chewing gums in every turn :roll:

(placeholder, video still uploading)

Kindest Regards from the Black Forest!

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Raptor Headers Performance effects on the Engine VE

Postby west_minist » Sun Feb 08, 2015 1:33 am

Well done to raptor. There is still a small leak.

The car is an aussie car :)

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Re: Tuning the 3.0R by Xtreme Racing Tuning (Tuner: West_Min

Postby Daytona » Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:24 pm

Hey, just thought I'd post my feedback from what I'm currently doing.

I just joined the forums a coupled days back, I'm based in NZ with a 2007 Legacy 3.0R 6MT.
I've been looking at getting a couple mods done, Raptor heads are in the post and will be put on soon (huge shout out to Tim for being really, really helpful!)

I ended up getting in contact with Ed asking if he could tune my car, he got back in contact extremely fast and started work very quickly.

My current progress with the tune is:
- Did a drive with logging and a couple gear pulls
- Sent the logs to Ed around 830PM (I think early in the morning Ed's time)
- He got back to me a bit before midnight same day with version 0. Same day!
- I stuck version 0 of the ROM on the car (bit nervous to be honest, first time I've flashed a cars memory!)
- Did the whole reset and what not, and took the car for a spin.
- Repeat for version 1 and 2.

And man, does the car drive different! 1st and 2nd gear changes are pretty quick now!
As others have said, even with version 0, it very much is like a different car. I was pretty much blown away when I took the car for a spin at midnight to see the difference.

Feels a very quick car now, unbelievable that Subaru didn't make the 3.0 have a bit more power out of the factory!
My tune is still in progress, but really impressed by what I've seen so far!

EDIT: Up to revision 3 now - all in the space of less than 24 hours - awesome service!

SI DRIVE
Spent more time switching between SI drive modes, all three are quite usable now. Kinda what I said before, but I probably used to spend most of my time in S# mode as there wasn't a real need to use the others. Will definitely use the others now!

MORE TIME IN LOW RPM
I probably spend even more time in the lower RPM range now, around 2k I'd say.

ACCELERATION
Acceleration is good, love the twitchiness in S# mode. Feels like the car is a bit of a wild horse and wants to be respected type thing, but still worked hard.

ACCELERATION AT HIGHER SPEEDS/OVERTAKING
Acceleration to beyond 130km seems easier now and you don't have to floor it to get there.

0-100
Don't have a time for this, didn't bother recording it, but gets there fast. I probably more like the speed from say 30km to 90-100km. The car was fun before, but now it's huge fun. Coming into a corner is awesome.

FEEL OF GEARS
The gears feel like they all been brought forward a gear. Like 5th now seems like 4th. I still tend to work through the gears anyways when nanna style driving.

BRAKES
Obviously the brakes aren't affected by the tune, but they feel like they will most likely need to be upgraded at some point after this tune, they're suitable-ish now, but now I want the stopping power I had on my bike. There's not point having that extra power (sure feels like there is extra power!) if you can't control it properly.

SOUND
Engine does sound different, gruntier.

DOWNSIDES
At this point, don't really have any - running pretty awesome right now!
I'm pretty sure fuel consumption is better too, especially when you're around town at 50km/h and in 5th gear, I'm at like 6.5ish litres/100km. Haven't been able to fully test consumption at highway speeds yet, will try on Friday night.

I've been for one decent sized trip, I always liked driving the H6, but his definitely takes it to another level.

A huge thanks to Ed for his work and seemingly not ever sleeping!
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Re: Tuning the 3.0R by Xtreme Racing Tuning (Tuner: West_Min

Postby Daytona » Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:41 am

Just a quick update on this.
I've had the headers installed now, so setup is:

- Raptor headers
- 100 HF cats
- Start of y pipe
- One resonator in each branch of the Y pipe (Coby 10")
- Y pipe merges into one
- Stock resonator and stock catback

Waiting on the catback from Aussie at the moment (I'm based in NZ).

Once the headers were in, did more tuning with Ed and after two more versions, car is really flying. Acceleration is really different, I mode in SI Drive is actually usable and you can definitely tell the increase in power.

Totally recommend Ed.
When I get the super charger, will be going back to Ed.
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Re: Tuning the 3.0R by Xtreme Racing Tuning (Tuner: West_Min

Postby west_minist » Thu May 07, 2015 4:46 pm

Final results of the Raptor CAI Tuning.

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Raptor Headers Sound

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2005 EDM Subaru Legacy Spec B 3.0R 6MT

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Re: Tuning the 3.0R by Xtreme Racing Tuning (Tuner: West_Min

Postby west_minist » Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:13 am

Another amazing video showing XRT 5EAT Stage 2 tuning - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7lxMFJO9Sc
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