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H6 hg help

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:55 pm
by Subawu lova lova
I recently bought a h6 03 outback with a known blown head gasket, I'm wondering if I should do the head gasket or buy a new engine?
Beautiful little car, everything else works, 200,000kms on the clock.

Re: H6 hg help

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:05 pm
by BillyCorgi
MY03, so it is a Gen3 derivative Outback.
H6 engine with alloy inlet manifold.
If the car has a good service history do the head gaskets.
Are you intending to do them yourself or get a workshop to do the business?

Re: H6 hg help

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:14 pm
by Subawu lova lova
A derivative outback? I don't understand.

No service history, oil in the engine is quite black so I suspect not that well maintained and yes I was going to find the hg guide somewhere on the net n give it ago myself. Or replace the engine myself.

Re: H6 hg help

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:26 pm
by Subawu lova lova
Ok I found threads exactly the same as mine.. How do I know if anything else is damaged? Pull it apart?
I'm no mechanic but I'm willing to learn n I can c that doing a hg is better then a new engine if the engine is ok.

Re: H6 hg help

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:58 am
by BillyCorgi
BillyCorgi wrote:MY03, so it is a Gen3 derivative Outback.

The first Outback was built on the Gen2 Liberty Wagon platform. Some people refer to this as the Gen1 Outback.
Then, the second series Outback is sometimes referred to as the Gen 2 is built on the Liberty Gen3 platform.
So, an MY03 outback is DERIVED from the Liberty Gen3 Platform.

Re: H6 hg help

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:06 am
by bigBADbenny
It's circa $3k to do the h6 HG's.

Re: H6 hg help

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:33 am
by Subawu lova lova
I understand the costs involved and its around $1500 if I pull the engine out myself n deliver to the shop.
I'm wanting to do as much myself as possible but I'm still unsure whether to do the hg or replace the engine?

Re: H6 hg help

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:23 pm
by Surge
Get this one for $300:
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/nowra/en ... 1094940553

Or make an offer on this one with 120,000km for $500:
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/ballajur ... 1093537737
Take it to the workshop, or DIY. Then drop it in.
That would leave you with less downtime and also if you DIY and fail you can have a second chance.

If all goes well then just sell the spare one.

It's nice to have a second one on hand to scavenge parts off of as well. Better than ordering and waiting for odd bits to be delivered.

Re: H6 hg help

PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:41 am
by BillyCorgi
Alloy Inlet manifold type or Plastic Inlet manifold type.
There are links for one of each?

Re: H6 hg help

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:39 am
by Surge
I would imagine you could just swap the inlet manifold over if it turned out to be the wrong one?

Re: H6 hg help

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 7:13 am
by BillyCorgi
Surge wrote:I would imagine you could just swap the inlet manifold over if it turned out to be the wrong one?

:shock: ?

Re: H6 hg help

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:16 am
by Surge
I guess that's a no.

Well that would make sense otherwise it would be easier to supercharge those that are plastic with a simple swap if such a thing was that easy.

Re: H6 hg help

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 2:26 pm
by Subawu lova lova
Can anyone confirm this is the right gasket set for the out back
http://www.ebay.com.au/ulk/itm/381228727313

Re: H6 hg help

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:14 pm
by Surge
That's for an ej25.

You want something for a ez30.

Re: H6 hg help

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 4:15 pm
by BillyCorgi
Somehow, missing two cylinders?

This one for the ALLOY MANIFOLD type.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/01-04-FITS-S ... Sw0vBUlJbM
Gasket by itself
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Engine-Cylin ... SwdvpWDK~M

This one should suit PLASTIC MANIFOLD type [for 3.0 R engine] (maybe-must check)
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Victor-Reinz ... SwPhdVHwCe

Images show different HG design between Alloy Manifold and Plastic Manifold?