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Difference between MY05 3.0R-B and MY05 3.0R Spec.B?

Posted:
Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:48 pm
by nixwrx
Guys can someone help me understand what the difference is between these two models? The 3.0R Spec.B appears to be a "July update" to the 3.0R-B?
I'm going by redbook data (and quick google searches), but can't see any difference in their specs.
FWIW interested just for the sedans with a manual transmission.
Thanks,
Nik
Re: Difference between MY05 3.0R-B and 3.0R Spec.B?

Posted:
Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:49 pm
by alessandro132
Sometimes the latter refer to the post-facelift (i.e. when you search in carsales). 3.0R-B is just an abbreviation of 30.R Spec B.
Re: Difference between MY05 3.0R-B and 3.0R Spec.B?

Posted:
Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:55 pm
by nixwrx
Hmmm really? Even with different VIN sequences? (sorry should have put this in the first post)
3.0R-B: JF1BLEKN35G.....
3.0R Spec.B: JF1BLEKN36G.....
So there are two different MY05 models of this car, and the facelift is the only difference?
Re: Difference between MY05 3.0R-B and 3.0R Spec.B?

Posted:
Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:54 pm
by zch91
nixwrx wrote:Hmmm really? Even with different VIN sequences? (sorry should have put this in the first post)
3.0R-B: JF1BLEKN35G.....
3.0R Spec.B: JF1BLEKN36G.....
So there are two different MY05 models of this car, and the facelift is the only difference?
10th Character of the VIN = ModelYear
MY05: JF1BLEKN35G.....
MY06: JF1BLEKN36G.....

Re: Difference between MY05 3.0R-B and MY05 3.0R Spec.B?

Posted:
Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:14 pm
by Robbks
MY05 and MY06 are still both pre-facelift and very little differences between them.
Don't take carsales ads as the correct model names
for pre-facelift, MY04-MY06 they were 3.0R-B
for facelifted, MY07-MY09 they were 3.0R specB
Re: Difference between MY05 3.0R-B and MY05 3.0R Spec.B?

Posted:
Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:35 pm
by KiDo_Tuning
SI Drive is the most obvious post-face feature.
06 is a 1Mb ECU
05 is a 512Kb ECU
I have always found the 06+ ECU's have a smoother engine with the extra processing power and tables. Not much in it but it is there.
Re: Difference between MY05 3.0R-B and MY05 3.0R Spec.B?

Posted:
Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:41 pm
by Robbks
KiDo_Tuning wrote:SI Drive is the most obvious post-face feature.
06 is a 1Mb ECU
05 is a 512Kb ECU
I have always found the 06+ ECU's have a smoother engine with the extra processing power and tables. Not much in it but it is there.
Matt, does the 06 have the full set of SI drive tables? Just no SI drive dial
Re: Difference between MY05 3.0R-B and MY05 3.0R Spec.B?

Posted:
Sat Aug 17, 2013 3:05 pm
by nixwrx
Thanks for the responses guys, brand new to the Liberty's so thanks for the help

Re: Difference between MY05 3.0R-B and MY05 3.0R Spec.B?

Posted:
Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:41 pm
by KiDo_Tuning
Robbks wrote:KiDo_Tuning wrote:SI Drive is the most obvious post-face feature.
06 is a 1Mb ECU
05 is a 512Kb ECU
I have always found the 06+ ECU's have a smoother engine with the extra processing power and tables. Not much in it but it is there.
Matt, does the 06 have the full set of SI drive tables? Just no SI drive dial
Only two accelerator tables but 4 throttle tables. They can be independatly tuned but only if you want to pull your hair out for the next year.
Acc A is 1st gear, Accc B is 6th gear and they interpolate between themselves. So you could have 1st at say 75% of the torque(say 240Nm) and 6th at 320Nm, then 4th gear would be 294 max. Then Throttle A and B are the min/max throttle limits for the RT value in Acc A with Throttle C and D are the min/max throttle limits for the RT value in Acc B. There is DBW tables in the same RAM memory as the LV values, just they are not normally accessible without doing a RAM dump.