ez30 extractors

[Brad88]

@jzk25, where abouts in qld is your shop??

and i dont know if i wil be making them anymore sorry guys, it will be arround $300 -$400 to make them myself(just all the parts)

and i can get custom made ones for not much more, and from what i have herd the guy does a good job,

[BUDDAH]

Buddah, no offense, but you do have a bit of trouble comprehending what is being stated.

Those headers are on an EZ30R in a 97 Liberty. It was the first conversion of it's kind apart from Perrin's turbo car and the Gen 2 H6 turbo that I helped build before the perrin car.
The engine had no exhaust on it when we got it, if it did I would have gladly used it as the std pipes are very good. The next NA H6 conversion we did I managed to source a set of std pipes from a wrecker so I used them and chopped them behind the collector. Both these cars were run by Vipec V88 ecu's so AF sensor positioning was not an issue.

Your assumptions of my skills in fabricating and what my business can do and has achieved is misinformed at best.

Thanks you answered my question ((:? why manufacturer something that you know will have no gain I dont get it ))

[jzk25]

Brad88, my business is in Noosaville.

[smoov]

So.

What's with the Salem Witch Hunt around these parts? Arguably the most excitement I've seen on this otherwise mundane forum..... ever?

So one or two little forum trolls, with what appears to be near bog stock fourth Generation Libs with a poor grasp of English decide to take swings at somebody they know very little about?

Hey...rexnetters!! Ahh whoops! Sorry about that... I thought I was somewhere else...

Everyone's an expert here, like markmcrs has mentioned. Stick up a jpg image, and so many keyboard PhD graduates in mechanical engineering surface like rats off a sinking ship...

How about instead of mindless ascii diarrhoea and bullocks heresay, here's a concept....(bear with me here...some may struggle here...)

HOW ABOUT SOME REAL WORLD EXPERIENCES?

Before you ask... allow me to share some of mine.

I can personally vouch for Al's work, having extensive work done to my Subaru Legacy, and viewing multiple examples of his handiwork, from small custom pipe fittings, to front mount intercooler installations, to complete drive-in, drive-out custom, crossbreed performance engine conversions, I was recommended by several customers of his to make the journey up to see him in regards to modifying my vehicle, as he'd be the only person appropriate for the job, in terms of knowing exactly what he's doing with anything Subaru related (with a CV like his, you'd be hard pressed to find anybody like him outside of Japan), and the quality of his work, fit and finish, which is intimidatingly pedantic.

So when my personally imported Subaru Legacy BG5 GTB suffered the all-too-common complications with the twin turbo system, I decided to make my way up to see him in regards to getting my vehicle not only converted to single turbo specification, but carry out multiple modifications whilst the spanners were out. I had conducted an extensive and exhaustive research into converting my twin turbo powered legacy into single turbo, amongst workshops here in Sydney and nationally, and truth be told, Al's work is absolutely awe inspiring, in terms of mechanical, electrics, performance and customisation.

The amount of attention to detail, craftsmanship, quality, reliability, and ingenuity is nothing short of breathtaking and spectacular. When Al had finished my exhaust on my vehicle, among many other things, I wanted to take it off and hang it on my wall, because it was such a brilliant work of art. Perhaps too good to use on a car for a lowly duty such as a pipe that handles waste gases! The twist mounted turbo was impressive to say the least, and the ECU rewiring has been absolutely reliable, almost two years and 40k kms since.

In today's modern times, there are very few people I can personally vouch for, and trust to work on my automobiles, and I would happily make the pilgrimage back again and again up to Noosaville from Sydney, NSW, Subaru (his specialty) or not, for custom fabrication, mechanical engineering and conversion work.

I am a self confessed anally retentive prick when it comes to my cars, and I am a staunch believer that your vehicle is a firm representation of your own personal values and beliefs. For those who do know me, and my vehicle, I strive for the absolute best for my vehicle, whilst maintaining practicality and everyday use.

Only Al was appropriate for the job.


I've seen many people's work, and nothing has been even remotely comparable in terms of quality of work, materials, fit and finish and cost effectiveness.

Any questions? Feel free to PM me.

Smythie - more than happy to meet up with you to demonstrate to you my car.

[Jaz]

Thanks you answered my question ((:? why manufacturer something that you know will have no gain I dont get it ))

I thought he did by saying that he couldn't get a set of standard ones so he had to make them.

I too will personally vouch of the quality of the work @ AM auto. I've had both Alan and Miles fabricate numerous items for my previous car (Lib RS). They now do the servicing on my new car.
Now that I've added my defence of an honest, value for money workshop, the original point of this thread before it degenerated into a discussion about the work of a certain business was to discuss options for guys with H6s, dare I suggest that it returns to that?

[jzk25]

Great idea. My suggestion to H6 Liberty owners is to cut out the std cats and replace with 200cpi items. That's all there is to gain in the exhaust without adding a turbine to the equation.

Looking forward to having a beer with Smythie to discuss why he doesn't rate the work that I put every waking hour into.

[BUDDAH]

Thanks you answered my question ((:? why manufacturer something that you know will have no gain I dont get it ))

I thought he did by saying that he couldn't get a set of standard ones so he had to make them.

I too will personally vouch of the quality of the work @ AM auto. I've had both Alan and Miles fabricate numerous items for my previous car (Lib RS). They now do the servicing on my new car.
Now that I've added my defence of an honest, value for money workshop, the original point of this thread before it degenerated into a discussion about the work of a certain business was to discuss options for guys with H6s, dare I suggest that it returns to that?

He did answer my question I said :::Thanks you answered my question

[smythie]

How so. Is it your car?

I've met the owner and seen and heard it run.

Welcome by the way. So you're from the shop in question or have a vested interest?

I have a vested interest in that I own the workshop and made those headers.
I have a problem with your attitude and posts regarding my business. You have on a few occasions posted remarks about the quality of the work, I am assuming on Tristans car, that comes from my workshop.

I would like you to explain your comments to me and the forum rather than throwing in negative one liners with no explanation. You may live with your mum and work in a government building but I run a small business that supports two seperate families with it's modest income so your comments can damage my reputation. If this is fine with the rest of the forum then I will not return here. If not, I would like you to explain your comments and there basis.

The headers pictured were never meant to appeal to the narcissistic eye, they are just headers made to suit the car as there were no std items available. I doubt there is any gain to be had at all from fabricated EZ30R headers on a std cammed engine. The total lack of any manifolding forced the manufacture of the headers. I consulted a friend who is well respected in the automotive and engine building community and he advised me on primary length of the headers according to engine analyser pro. I could not achieve the length it suggested would be optimal as it was too long to fit the chassis. The extractors did not leak, the pipes were tig welded and filled on the mandrel joins and mig welded to the flanges and collector. They were very noisy, long runner headers are noisy. The exhaust was then changed multiple times in Sydney in an attempt pass emissions compliance, I have no idea what was done to it apart from extra cats added.

It was quite simple, they leaked every time I have seen the car. It's been a while since I've seen it so I don't know whether he has had it sorted since. I only needed one line to explain myself and short of going into a full scientific analysis anything more would not have added value.

And up until your paragraph admitting to the headers being too noisy for compliance (and subsequently being modified), you have allowed others to give you credit for those headers and the conversion you did on his car (which aside from the exhaust I reckon was a good job by the way - I have not said anything different about that car). By not disclosing the fact that the finished system was not wholly yours (and you've been around long enough to do so), you have taken the credit for the work yourself. If you are going to take credit for the positives about a car, you had better be prepared to accept responsibility for the negatives.

Another reason I have been disappointed with the work coming out of your workshop was a dodgy front mount installation on a Gen 2. In the process of cutting reinforcing behind the front bar you left a sharp edge to later cut through the silicone elbow coming of the intercooler. When we found the reason it wouldn't build boost during a roadside repair after the owner got tired of it on a cruise we were able to fit a couple of fingers through the cut in the elbow.

If the reputation of your business is important enough to you that you search around forums for negative remarks, your focus should be on getting cars right first not getting upset when dodgy work comes back to haunt you.

So.

What's with the Salem Witch Hunt around these parts? Arguably the most excitement I've seen on this otherwise mundane forum..... ever?

So one or two little forum trolls, with what appears to be near bog stock fourth Generation Libs with a poor grasp of English decide to take swings at somebody they know very little about?

Hey...rexnetters!! Ahh whoops! Sorry about that... I thought I was somewhere else...

Everyone's an expert here, like markmcrs has mentioned. Stick up a jpg image, and so many keyboard PhD graduates in mechanical engineering surface like rats off a sinking ship...

How about instead of mindless ascii diarrhoea and bullocks heresay, here's a concept....(bear with me here...some may struggle here...)

HOW ABOUT SOME REAL WORLD EXPERIENCES?

Before you ask... allow me to share some of mine.

I can personally vouch for Al's work, having extensive work done to my Subaru Legacy, and viewing multiple examples of his handiwork, from small custom pipe fittings, to front mount intercooler installations, to complete drive-in, drive-out custom, crossbreed performance engine conversions, I was recommended by several customers of his to make the journey up to see him in regards to modifying my vehicle, as he'd be the only person appropriate for the job, in terms of knowing exactly what he's doing with anything Subaru related (with a CV like his, you'd be hard pressed to find anybody like him outside of Japan), and the quality of his work, fit and finish, which is intimidatingly pedantic.

So when my personally imported Subaru Legacy BG5 GTB suffered the all-too-common complications with the twin turbo system, I decided to make my way up to see him in regards to getting my vehicle not only converted to single turbo specification, but carry out multiple modifications whilst the spanners were out. I had conducted an extensive and exhaustive research into converting my twin turbo powered legacy into single turbo, amongst workshops here in Sydney and nationally, and truth be told, Al's work is absolutely awe inspiring, in terms of mechanical, electrics, performance and customisation.

The amount of attention to detail, craftsmanship, quality, reliability, and ingenuity is nothing short of breathtaking and spectacular. When Al had finished my exhaust on my vehicle, among many other things, I wanted to take it off and hang it on my wall, because it was such a brilliant work of art. Perhaps too good to use on a car for a lowly duty such as a pipe that handles waste gases! The twist mounted turbo was impressive to say the least, and the ECU rewiring has been absolutely reliable, almost two years and 40k kms since.

In today's modern times, there are very few people I can personally vouch for, and trust to work on my automobiles, and I would happily make the pilgrimage back again and again up to Noosaville from Sydney, NSW, Subaru (his specialty) or not, for custom fabrication, mechanical engineering and conversion work.

I am a self confessed anally retentive prick when it comes to my cars, and I am a staunch believer that your vehicle is a firm representation of your own personal values and beliefs. For those who do know me, and my vehicle, I strive for the absolute best for my vehicle, whilst maintaining practicality and everyday use.

Only Al was appropriate for the job.


I've seen many people's work, and nothing has been even remotely comparable in terms of quality of work, materials, fit and finish and cost effectiveness.

Any questions? Feel free to PM me.

Smythie - more than happy to meet up with you to demonstrate to you my car.

Witch hunt? Nah no witchhunt. One user who you should know (if your join date is anything to go by) has a history of winding people up with inflammatory remarks and my comment which Al has responded to and I have provided explanation. Re-read my earlier posts again and you will see that I supported the design of Al's headers when criticised for not being equal length.

More than happy to catch up and perv at your car sometime smoov. Keep an eye out for Sydney gatherings, I'll be along if I'm in town

The testimonials were a nice touch. Thank you for them smoov and Jaz. Maybe they should be moved to a separate "AM Auto testimonial" thread as they have little relevance to this one.

Al, thank you also for finally contributing. I'm sure most would welcome you hanging around and contributing more.

[BUDDAH]

Well there's a great recommendation I will stick with the shiny Chinese ones

[jzk25]

And up until your paragraph admitting to the headers being too noisy for compliance (and subsequently being modified), you have allowed others to give you credit for those headers and the conversion you did on his car (which aside from the exhaust I reckon was a good job by the way - I have not said anything different about that car). By not disclosing the fact that the finished system was not wholly yours (and you've been around long enough to do so), you have taken the credit for the work yourself. If you are going to take credit for the positives about a car, you had better be prepared to accept responsibility for the negatives.

Another reason I have been disappointed with the work coming out of your workshop was a dodgy front mount installation on a Gen 2. In the process of cutting reinforcing behind the front bar you left a sharp edge to later cut through the silicone elbow coming of the intercooler. When we found the reason it wouldn't build boost during a roadside repair after the owner got tired of it on a cruise we were able to fit a couple of fingers through the cut in the elbow.

If the reputation of your business is important enough to you that you search around forums for negative remarks, your focus should be on getting cars right first not getting upset when dodgy work comes back to haunt you.

I made the headers as pictured in the photo, if they looked different after that it was because someone else changed them. They did not leak when I made them. They were never made to pass NSW emissions. I did not make the rear section of the exhaust and I believe it was remade multiple times after I saw it. I did not tune it, I wired the ecu and got it to a drivable state. I clearly stated to the owner that the EZ30R with non std ecu would not pass emissions and that he should not fit it if that was a requirement. He didn't care and asked for it anyway.

Would the pierced intercooler hose have been on a car that had a front end shunt by any chance?

It's great that you have two examples of random cars that have probably done 20k kms since they were at the workshop that have had "catastrophic" failures and therefore you can judge my work upon that. You are truly awesome and should never leave the internet as it is your natural home.
As I said, go into detail about the failures and which car they occurred on.

I came here to see how much of an ass Ian had made of himself being a forum warrior(it's his profession) and find some local legend dropping comments about a workshop he has no knowledge of apart from some random well used cars that have previously been worked on by us.

Tell me all about yourself Smythie. You must be an experienced man in the automotive industry to make such sweeping judgements with no basis?

[smoov]

Witch hunt? Nah no witchhunt.

So why is it that you take great interest into slandering amauto in multiple threads?
Please explain that one.

One user who you should know (if your join date is anything to go by) has a history of winding people up with inflammatory remarks

No. I don't know who you're talking about. What's my joining date got to do with it?
I joined thinking that I'd be able to socialise and mingle with the people here, to combine on the camaraderie that most Subaru owners share on many other forums and clubs (apart from this one), but after attending a couple of meets, and the conduct of members here in this thread and others, have left somewhat of a poor impression about this forum (and many others out there).

Re-read my earlier posts again and you will see that I supported the design of Al's headers when criticised for not being equal length.

Sorry. I didn't see any "support" on your behalf. All I saw was this, this and this. Hardly what anybody with half a brain would call "support". More like "libel".

More than happy to catch up and perv at your car sometime smoov. Keep an eye out for Sydney gatherings, I'll be along if I'm in town

Groovy. Since this place has such a positive and supportive vibe, I'll keep my eyes peeled, and try my best for the next meet.... how about you PM me when you're next in town... may be easier for the both of us?

The testimonials were a nice touch. Thank you for them smoov and Jaz. Maybe they should be moved to a separate "AM Auto testimonial" thread as they have little relevance to this one.

Testimonials > heresay fairytales. Perhaps it may be beneficial for you in the future to refrain from such comments before offering your "expert" advice so willingly?

Al, thank you also for finally contributing. I'm sure most would welcome you hanging around and contributing more.

Wow. Not only do you turn around one hundred and eighty degrees with your tail between your legs, but you have the arrogance to maintain face.

Very welcoming.

[kiks]

Popcorn.

[BUDDAH]

Well that lets me off the hook

[kiks]

So where can I buy a kit set of extractors that comes with plastic bags with all the nuts, and descriptions for which direction to turn them?

[BUDDAH]

So where can I buy a kit set of extractors that comes with plastic bags with all the nuts, and descriptions for which direction to turn them?

It seems the shiny ones from China dont work . Have a look on the USA sights with the AU$ @ 1:1 its a good time to stock up on toys