Fuel Consumption on 3.0

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Re: Fuel Consumption on 3.0

Postby starship303 » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:42 pm

Just got back from a camping trip. I averaged 8.6 litres/100 over around 940kms according to the trip computer. Pretty good considering the car was quite loaded & I wasn't trying to get a low figure, just driving normally. 8)

To clarify: This is with around 90% highway, 5% suburban & 5% city driving. Using Shell V-Power for the first tank and Shell "Premium" for the second (no V available...).

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Re: Fuel Consumption on 3.0

Postby illuzn » Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:36 pm

starship303 wrote:Just got back from a camping trip. I averaged 8.6 litres/100 over around 940kms according to the trip computer. Pretty good considering the car was quite loaded & I wasn't trying to get a low figure, just driving normally. 8)

To clarify: This is with around 90% highway, 5% suburban & 5% city driving. Using Shell V-Power for the first tank and Shell "Premium" for the second (no V available...).

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+1 totally had this problem myself.

I was actually thinking to fill up on 95RON and top it up with ethanol from methylated spirits to get there. Doing the numbers need around 10% Ethanol to get 97RON - which is almost bang on.

Actually, we could start a whole new thread on what to do if you're in the bush and run out of 98RON with a retune.
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Re: Fuel Consumption on 3.0

Postby starship303 » Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:07 pm

illuzn wrote:
starship303 wrote:Just got back from a camping trip. I averaged 8.6 litres/100 over around 940kms according to the trip computer. Pretty good considering the car was quite loaded & I wasn't trying to get a low figure, just driving normally. 8)

To clarify: This is with around 90% highway, 5% suburban & 5% city driving. Using Shell V-Power for the first tank and Shell "Premium" for the second (no V available...).

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+1 totally had this problem myself.

I was actually thinking to fill up on 95RON and top it up with ethanol from methylated spirits to get there. Doing the numbers need around 10% Ethanol to get 97RON - which is almost bang on.

Actually, we could start a whole new thread on what to do if you're in the bush and run out of 98RON with a retune.


Well you can do what I normally do and carry a bottle of octane boost in the glove box for such ocassions. :wink: I didn't have this but did have the fuel 'additive' that Subaru provide after a service with them. I think its partly a cleaner and partly a booster. Car was purring on the second tank no worries so all good.

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Re: Fuel Consumption on 3.0

Postby patrickbateman » Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:34 am

J0HNATH0N wrote:I have had my liberty 1 week today ( finally passed 1 week unlike the previous liberty that was written off) my fuel consumption is 9.8l/100 and just passing 500kms. Lovely car to drive and plenty of go when needed.

I just got an 06 and I'm averaging 15.8 on my first tank of 98! This is mostly suburban driving, not too many stretches where the car can settle into a low fuel-usage groove unfortunately.

Is yours auto or manual?

What is the tank size in an MY2006 3.0r-b? I am suspicious that the on-board fuel display is inaccurate. Based on where the needle is an kms done, I'm going to end up on about 420-430kms for this tank.

Mine has been chipped and dyno-tuned, clearly not for economy though... If it keeps up at around 16L per 100km I am going to have to get it re-/de-tuned.
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Re: Fuel Consumption on 3.0

Postby Blitzen06Wgn » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:11 pm

patrickbateman wrote:
J0HNATH0N wrote:I have had my liberty 1 week today ( finally passed 1 week unlike the previous liberty that was written off) my fuel consumption is 9.8l/100 and just passing 500kms. Lovely car to drive and plenty of go when needed.

I just got an 06 and I'm averaging 15.8 on my first tank of 98! This is mostly suburban driving, not too many stretches where the car can settle into a low fuel-usage groove unfortunately.

Is yours auto or manual?

What is the tank size in an MY2006 3.0r-b? I am suspicious that the on-board fuel display is inaccurate. Based on where the needle is an kms done, I'm going to end up on about 420-430kms for this tank.

Mine has been chipped and dyno-tuned, clearly not for economy though... If it keeps up at around 16L per 100km I am going to have to get it re-/de-tuned.


Yeah 16L/100km is 6 litre V8 territory. I've always been suspicious of the readings from the on-board systems though
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Re: Fuel Consumption on 3.0

Postby KiDo_Tuning » Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:28 pm

patrickbateman wrote:
J0HNATH0N wrote:I have had my liberty 1 week today ( finally passed 1 week unlike the previous liberty that was written off) my fuel consumption is 9.8l/100 and just passing 500kms. Lovely car to drive and plenty of go when needed.

I just got an 06 and I'm averaging 15.8 on my first tank of 98! This is mostly suburban driving, not too many stretches where the car can settle into a low fuel-usage groove unfortunately.

Is yours auto or manual?

What is the tank size in an MY2006 3.0r-b? I am suspicious that the on-board fuel display is inaccurate. Based on where the needle is an kms done, I'm going to end up on about 420-430kms for this tank.

Mine has been chipped and dyno-tuned, clearly not for economy though... If it keeps up at around 16L per 100km I am going to have to get it re-/de-tuned.


15.8L and getting just over 400km's to a tank is about right for the fuel gauge consumption(around 60L tank)

Does it have any acceleration/pull in 6th gear from below 2000rpm?
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Re: Fuel Consumption on 3.0

Postby chanham » Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:12 pm

I've always been suspicious of the readings from the on-board systems though


yeah its a sneaky bastard!
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Re: Fuel Consumption on 3.0

Postby patrickbateman » Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:44 pm

Blitzen06Wgn wrote:
patrickbateman wrote:
J0HNATH0N wrote:I have had my liberty 1 week today ( finally passed 1 week unlike the previous liberty that was written off) my fuel consumption is 9.8l/100 and just passing 500kms. Lovely car to drive and plenty of go when needed.

I just got an 06 and I'm averaging 15.8 on my first tank of 98! This is mostly suburban driving, not too many stretches where the car can settle into a low fuel-usage groove unfortunately.

Is yours auto or manual?

What is the tank size in an MY2006 3.0r-b? I am suspicious that the on-board fuel display is inaccurate. Based on where the needle is an kms done, I'm going to end up on about 420-430kms for this tank.

Mine has been chipped and dyno-tuned, clearly not for economy though... If it keeps up at around 16L per 100km I am going to have to get it re-/de-tuned.


Yeah 16L/100km is 6 litre V8 territory. I've always been suspicious of the readings from the on-board systems though

I'm pretty new to the whole tuning/ECU thing, but I understand that if you go for pure power you can end up running a bit rich. I'm wondering if this is the case here.

To be clear, I'm getting 16L/100km with gear changes at 3000-3500rpm, accelerator rarely going below half-depression.
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Re: Fuel Consumption on 3.0

Postby patrickbateman » Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:46 pm

KiDo_Tuning wrote:Does it have any acceleration/pull in 6th gear from below 2000rpm?

I'll check - what would this suggest?
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Re: Fuel Consumption on 3.0

Postby KiDo_Tuning » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:43 pm

patrickbateman wrote:
Blitzen06Wgn wrote:Yeah 16L/100km is 6 litre V8 territory. I've always been suspicious of the readings from the on-board systems though

I'm pretty new to the whole tuning/ECU thing, but I understand that if you go for pure power you can end up running a bit rich. I'm wondering if this is the case here.

To be clear, I'm getting 16L/100km with gear changes at 3000-3500rpm, accelerator rarely going below half-depression.


Tuned, it should improve fuel economy. Stock tune runs horribly rich and the stok throttle tip in(equivalent to a carburettor accelerator pump) just throws fuel at the engine each time you move the accelerator pedal
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Re: Fuel Consumption on 3.0

Postby dawesy » Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:33 pm

I cant speak for cars but from tuning bikes
Most of them are set at about 11/1 in the "safe zone" as my boss says haha and from tuning bikes see most power around 14/1. And can have leaner maps to drastically improving fueling

But as kido has said stock is set up poorly and will probably find most brands will do the same.
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Re: Fuel Consumption on 3.0

Postby Smithy » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:47 pm

I've got currently 12.6 (mostly suburb driving, some highway).

Hopefully it's better after I clean the air filter a bit more.
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Re: Fuel Consumption on 3.0

Postby J0HNATH0N » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:36 pm

2500kms later I'm sitting on 10.0/100. I don't thrash it much but I'm not granny driving either. I believe that it has a 65l tank and its about right as I get the fuel light around 500-550 ks in which apparently means 10l left so ~100 ks

But next time he is in wa I think I'll try a KiDo tune :-)

I hear a lot of positive reviews :-)
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Re: Fuel Consumption on 3.0

Postby chanham » Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:43 am

im with you on that one, + 1 for WA visit!
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Re: Fuel Consumption on 3.0

Postby patrickbateman » Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:55 am

KiDo_Tuning wrote:Does it have any acceleration/pull in 6th gear from below 2000rpm?

Hi - so I finally prised the car away from the other half to check this. It does pull from way down at 1000rpm in 6th. I was able to accelerate from about 25 up to about 60kmh in 6th, albeit pretty slowly. Felt like I was using about a litre per 100m too.

It has an EcuTek Type 2 remapped ECU, something along these lines (this isn't from my car):

http://sjautomotive.com.au/images/Dynog ... .0-R-B.jpg

Onto my second tank, still sitting up around 16-17 litres per 100km which is, frankly, ridiculous. :?
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