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tangcla wrote:But the auto is technically a superior AWD system...

Sometimes good mechanical design is superior to good electronic design.... this might be one of them.

My 3RB has VDC.
MY08 has it in manual and auto. MY07 had it only in auto.

mianos wrote:MY08 has it in manual and auto.

Not for the GTB. In fact Inchcape (Subaru Australia) refuse to option the manual GTB with VDC.

The topic is the 3.0R thought that was what was being talked about. The GT-B turbos don't have it here yet.

Cause auto drivers just like the car to do 'everything' for them... lazy buggers

On the topic of the spinning wheels, as Ric mentioned, different centre diff in the manual that proportions 50:50 drive front and back, from what I understand, auto can proportion 85% to the front. I have lifted a wheel on mine going into a nasty drive (cross axled) and it still drove across just fine, the rear did spin briefly but the front wheels drove it through.

For the record, lifting a wheel will bring most diffs undone. An LSD is only useful if there is SOME resistance to both wheels on the axle, if you lift a wheel, the LSD will unload power to that wheel, only real way to avoid it is a diff LOCK which will maintain equal drive to both axles regardless of whether one is 4 feet in the air or not.

MIB wrote:For the record, lifting a wheel will bring most diffs undone. An LSD is only useful if there is SOME resistance to both wheels on the axle, if you lift a wheel, the LSD will unload power to that wheel, only real way to avoid it is a diff LOCK which will maintain equal drive to both axles regardless of whether one is 4 feet in the air or not.

That's what a torque sharing differential will do, like a Torsen differential.
A standard viscous LSD won't do that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_slip_differential
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsen

Thanks for the info gents.

A maunal tranny might be the choice this time round.