GEN4 liberty Secondary air pump Issues...

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Re: GEN4 liberty Secondary air pump Issues...

Postby fotomarc » Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:45 pm

I have a 2007 Subaru Liberty Wagon which is in perfect condition. Now am told it has the same problem! Just before I was about to sell it, or trade it in on a new car!

The Engine light remains on(amber colour) and the Cruise Control light flashes. Very annoying since I use the Cruise control a lot and now it's disabled! Subaru quoted me $3,993 to replace the secondary pump and the valves! I was shocked! Took it somewhere else and was quoted $6,000! Called a couple of independent Subaru Specialists wreckers and they quoted me around $1,100 for parts plus labour. Not sure what that brings it up to. One said 3.5K

Now I can't sell it and have decided to just trade it in for about half of what I was hoping to sell it for! If I spend money on the pumps, valves, timing belt and new brakes it will probably end up costing about and estimated $5,000! I was told this is a common issue with this model of Subaru and if you search on Google there are many with the same issue! If it isn't their loose petrol cap! :roll:

The FAULT CODE IS P1410 SEC AIR VAVLVE OPEN/SIEZED. The car drives perfectly fine at the moment. I don't know if the were just bullshitting to me because I said I wanted to sell it, or it's a genuine problem! They offered me $3,000 for the car, which is immaculate.

Does anyone know if it gets worse if not repaired? The fuel consumption is the same! Can you clear the FAULT CODE somehow?

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Re: GEN4 liberty Secondary air pump Issues...

Postby KiDo_Tuning » Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:42 am

Is it a 2.5L 2007?
If so I can sort it out for you easily. Done literally hundreds of the later model ones for a reasonable price.
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Re: GEN4 liberty Secondary air pump Issues...

Postby fotomarc » Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:45 am

It's a 2.0R Auto, build date May 2007. What is your estimate on replacing the AirPump, Valves, Timing Belt, brakes/machine? Is it worth the trouble to fix it? I have read on horror story of someone who had the AirPump/Valves done 3 times and the engine light still on! Everything else on the car is fine! It still drives well!
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Re: GEN4 liberty Secondary air pump Issues...

Postby KiDo_Tuning » Sun Dec 28, 2014 1:26 pm

fotomarc wrote:It's a 2.0R Auto, build date May 2007. What is your estimate on replacing the AirPump, Valves, Timing Belt, brakes/machine? Is it worth the trouble to fix it? I have read on horror story of someone who had the AirPump/Valves done 3 times and the engine light still on! Everything else on the car is fine! It still drives well!


Easiest option is to remove the ECU, send it to Russia and about 2 weeks without the car. No mechanical mods needed, no labour charge etc :)

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Re: GEN4 liberty Secondary air pump Issues...

Postby fotomarc » Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:28 pm

KiDo_Tuning wrote:
fotomarc wrote:It's a 2.0R Auto, build date May 2007. What is your estimate on replacing the AirPump, Valves, Timing Belt, brakes/machine? Is it worth the trouble to fix it? I have read on horror story of someone who had the AirPump/Valves done 3 times and the engine light still on! Everything else on the car is fine! It still drives well!


Easiest option is to remove the ECU, send it to Russia and about 2 weeks without the car. No mechanical mods needed, no labour charge etc :)

Shoot me a PM and I can organise


Thanks for that I wish I had have known earlier! I ended up trading the car in. Most of the quotes I got didn't make it easy to hold on to it.
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Re: GEN4 liberty Secondary air pump Issues...

Postby daniel011206 » Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:54 pm

Guys just had this problem solved on my 20R so i thought i would post this message to prevent anyone getting ripped off from the genuine Subaru parts that have burnt my pocket away.
Purchased a kit call Subaru secondary air eliminator, as i am not real handy i had a company in sydney fit it. Has been fitted for almost 4 weeks now so far so good.

Now i just need to sort my crap clutch feel out, any suggestions would be good.

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Re: GEN4 liberty Secondary air pump Issues...

Postby bigBADbenny » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:41 am

What was the cost of the kit?
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Re: GEN4 liberty Secondary air pump Issues...

Postby daniel011206 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 8:46 pm

about $400, i see they are also advertised on Ebay at present or just visit their website.

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Re: GEN4 liberty Secondary air pump Issues...

Postby bigBADbenny » Sat Mar 14, 2015 9:36 pm

For that money you'd be better off getting Matt's tune and fix imho :)

Better a bandaid fix and an awesome tune, than just an expensive bandaid... ;)
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Re: GEN4 liberty Secondary air pump Issues...

Postby mick86 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:19 pm

So here, I will up loload some pics.. this is why the light and code has come on. There is carbon build up in the engine. No changing codes or reprogramming wwould have solved the real issue I had qith my car. Ports inside the heads where almost completely blocked.
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Re: GEN4 liberty Secondary air pump Issues...

Postby mick86 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:23 pm

The pictures showing that there was more than a secondary airpump issue with the car.... I had subaru service department pull apart and machine. Car did not have the same fault again .
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Re: GEN4 liberty Secondary air pump Issues...

Postby alexeiwoody » Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:24 pm

mick86 wrote:The pictures showing that there was more than a secondary airpump issue with the car.... I had subaru service department pull apart and machine. Car did not have the same fault again .


Thank you for posting this up.
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Re: GEN4 liberty Secondary air pump Issues...

Postby jslayz » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:56 pm

why should that amount of carbon cause an issue....curious now
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