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Weird starting problem

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:29 pm
by sdd
Having some weird starting problems with a 2006 Liberty wagon, 2.0R engine. Starts perfectly every time when cold, and usually if you turn it off and start it again fairly soon after. But if the car's left for, say, an hour or two it often struggles to start. It will turn over maybe 6-10 times before sort of spluttering to life.

A little history. Only bought the car a few months back and it was fine initially, but started having increasingly bad hesitation around 2,500 revs when accelerating. Had upper engine clean, injector removal for a clean, new fuel filter, then read that resetting the ECU could help the hesitation . Did that, and it seems like after these things the starting problem started. Hesitation returned after running for a few days after the ECU reset, and dealer reflashed the ECU to include some updates that cured the hesitation. But the starting problem remains.

Grateful to hear any ideas!

Cheers.

Re: Weird starting problem

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:33 pm
by Kekotic
Fuel pump?

Re: Weird starting problem

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:25 pm
by SegR
Sounds like the problem I have, but with mine I also have problems with cold starts. If I let the pump prime the fuel line TWICE before starting then 93% of cold starts are fine.

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Re: Weird starting problem

PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:28 pm
by sdd
Posted this before, but didn't seem to turn up...

I did have the fuel pump looked at. No obvious signs, like corrosion. Pressures were OK, but, of course, starting wasn't playing up at the time. If it's a fuel pump problem, is there a reason why it would always be fine on cold starts, but not otherwise?

SegR, what are you doing to prime the pump twice? Just turning ignition on, waiting for dials to spin once, turning off, then turning on again?

Thanks for the feedback guys!

Re: Weird starting problem

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:45 am
by SegR
On cold start your engine idles higher so a number of components will be working a bit harder (including pump) than a warm start I suppose.

Yes that's exactly how I do it; mechanic (I'm not one and don't purport to be) suggested it's a more valid test than priming once. (I.e. just waiting for needle sweep before starting)

Re: Weird starting problem

PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:22 am
by sdd
OK, thanks. I'll give that a go.

Re: Weird starting problem

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:45 pm
by champ
sdd wrote:OK, thanks. I'll give that a go.

So how did it work out?

Re: Weird starting problem

PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:01 pm
by sdd
Haven't tried anything yet. Car's been at the local mechanic for a couple of days in the hope that he could recreate while checking fuel pump pressures. But, of course, didn't happen once! He reckons the car still hesitates a small amount while accelerating, and is going to replace the plugs, since that's not been done lately. I'll report back.

Re: Weird starting problem

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:32 pm
by Nipple06
sdd wrote:Haven't tried anything yet. Car's been at the local mechanic for a couple of days in the hope that he could recreate while checking fuel pump pressures. But, of course, didn't happen once! He reckons the car still hesitates a small amount while accelerating, and is going to replace the plugs, since that's not been done lately. I'll report back.

well yeah i know what its like .. Another problem is check you brake lights .. May fix that problem i know it's strange but changed my break lights to led's from leo .. well i had the same problem .. would rev to 2500 fine but after that would just like go no where .. Hope that helps