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Any help with this model?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:09 pm
by Booslee
Hi all, new to the place, but I've been looking at Libertys for a while now, and came across one on sale near where I live. Having a look at the pictures I noticed the air-con controls aren't electronic like I see on other Libs but old school dials. This is on a 2006 Lib by the way. So I'm just wondering if this is some really basic model, or has the owner done something to it?

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Re: Any help with this model?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:17 pm
by seanmau5
I think the basic 2.0r came with just the dials and not climate control. Spend a bit more on a safety pack/luxury/premium :)

Re: Any help with this model?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:28 am
by Booslee
Yeah, I've been looking out for a black Luxury/premium Lib, but i've had no hits at the moment. Thanks for the help anyways

Re: Any help with this model?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:29 am
by Robbks
Lib_seanmau5 wrote:Spend a bit more on a 3.0R-B


Fixed for accuracy :D

Re: Any help with this model?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:34 am
by seanmau5
Lol yes I agree Rob, a 3.0.. And I disagree with your choice of colour, if I could start all over again I'd be ditching the black

Re: Any help with this model?

PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 6:36 pm
by Booslee
Dunno how to drive manual (whole family only drives auto :oops:) and I think spending that amount of money on a 3.0R-B to learn manual is risky. And that said the auto 3.0Rs are a bit out of my price range (taking into consideration rego, insurance etc)

Re: Any help with this model?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:55 pm
by d-chang
Lib_seanmau5 wrote:I think the basic 2.0r came with just the dials and not climate control. Spend a bit more on a safety pack/luxury/premium :)


Hey guys! Hmm... this is a weird one... because my car is a 2.0R with climate control... there must be different variations with the 2.0R... Booslee, that Liberty you were looking at, did it have fog lights and a dual exhaust?

The only thing I can think of between this model and mine.... even though they are called the same... may have a couple of added features. For example, mine is also a 2.0R, but it came with a dual exhaust system, climate control and fog lights.

Re: Any help with this model?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:06 pm
by seanmau5
d-chang wrote:
Lib_seanmau5 wrote:I think the basic 2.0r came with just the dials and not climate control. Spend a bit more on a safety pack/luxury/premium :)


Hey guys! Hmm... this is a weird one... because my car is a 2.0R with climate control... there must be different variations with the 2.0R... Booslee, that Liberty you were looking at, did it have fog lights and a dual exhaust?

The only thing I can think of between this model and mine.... even though they are called the same... may have a couple of added features. For example, mine is also a 2.0R, but it came with a dual exhaust system, climate control and fog lights.


Safety pack, luxury pack & premium pack (combination of the 2)

Re: Any help with this model?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:05 pm
by Booslee
Thanks for all the replies guys, but turns out this car belonged to Adam from this forum! I also coincidentally found his For Sale thread as well, after spotting it on carsales.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16052

Basically the deal fell through. I was going to buy the car. Despite my first dibs on inspection, and Adam's promise to honor the price as stated in the thread, the car was sold for a bit more an hour before our planned inspection. While in the end he's allowed to sell to the highest offer, I have to admit I'm quite disappointed (to say the least) at how it went down.

Re: Any help with this model?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:11 pm
by mihai
Just for future reference.

The model that was for sale was a 2.0i. The 2.0i had single exhaust, no fog lights and no climate control.

The 2.0R had dual exhausts, fog lights, and climate control.

The other difference is that the 2.0i had less power than the 2.5i's whereas the 2.0R's have the same power in kW as the 2.5i's but less torque.

Re: Any help with this model?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:15 pm
by Booslee
Yeah I noticed it was the most basic model after I asked Adam a few questions -lack of foglights, climate control, as well as a mention of a swapped exhaust system. He did mention he swapped the engine after he blew the first one. Whether or not he kept it back as a 2.0i or went to a 2.0R is unknown however.

Re: Any help with this model?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:15 pm
by d-chang
mihai wrote:Just for future reference.

The model that was for sale was a 2.0i. The 2.0i had single exhaust, no fog lights and no climate control.

The 2.0R had dual exhausts, fog lights, and climate control.

The other difference is that the 2.0i had less power than the 2.5i's whereas the 2.0R's have the same power in kW as the 2.5i's but less torque.


Ahhh! Well that has shed light on the matter! Thanks Mihai for the history lesson! :D How much less torque are we talking about?

Re: Any help with this model?

PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:24 pm
by mihai
d-chang wrote:Ahhh! Well that has shed light on the matter! Thanks Mihai for the history lesson! :D How much less torque are we talking about?


The 2.5i's have 226Nm @ 4400RPM with 121kW @ 5600RPM
The 2.0R's have 187Nm @ 3200RPM with 121kW @ 6800RPM
The 2.0i's have 187Nm @ 4400 RPM with 101kW @ 5600RPM

Re: Any help with this model?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:34 pm
by Deep Heat
mihai wrote:The 2.5i's have 226Nm @ 4400RPM with 121kW @ 5600RPM
The 2.0R's have 187Nm @ 3200RPM with 121kW @ 6800RPM
The 2.0i's have 187Nm @ 4400 RPM with 101kW @ 5600RPM


The latter 2.5i's (2007 onwards I think) had 127kW @ 6000rpm and 226Nm @ 4400rpm