Accident in Moorabin

[vp920b]

After checking all parts, and I found cheap one from USA.

1 headlight only 200 bucks arrive to melbourne, but as you know, that US version got the yellowish thing on the turning lights.

If I it the same part number, maybe I will get both, so that left and right, same color.

What do you guys think?

Do anyone know about the US headlight and AUS headlight? Are they straight forward plug and play?

Cheers.

Naldo

[teK--]

you can "clear" the usa headlights by baking them in the oven and removing the orange lense. Legacygt forums have a diy guide. Much cheaper than buying a matching pair. They are otherwise plug and play

[bugli]

Hi Naldo,

Sorry to hear your about your misfortune mate, If you are looking for an 'relatively' cheap insurance option try AMMI. I know people mightn't like them but for me (18 years old) it was only $1900 for full comprehensive on my Gen III. It'll obviously cost you a little more (Gen IV) but if you do a defensive driving course with them they'll take 10% off your next premium and all those after (apparently ) .


Good luck finding a new light and getting the damage fixed.


Michael.

[adhar]

Hi Naldo,

Sorry to hear about ur incident. You really should have full comp insurance for tricky situations like this; if you can't afford it, just drive a suitable car (i.e. one only worth a few $k). Please don't try and get full comp down the track and try to claim this accident at a later date - remember you have already told ur insurance company about this accident so they already know and have no doubt noted it in their system.

Also, when u spoke to the police did you say that the other drive gave you wrong details? According to Section 61 of the Road Safety Act 1986 they are required to give you their details. If they don't give correct details they have not acted in accordance with the Road Safety Act. If i'm not mistaken it the job of Police to intervene in situations where the law is broken. But i could be naive in thinking our taxes actually go to law enforcement....

I suggest you talk to the police again if it is quite clear that the incorrect details have been given as that is illegal. I know this is not ur country but you have every right to be here and the same laws apply to everyone.

Good luck with getting it sorted. Like Jim said, i would be reluctant to purchase parts out of ur own pocket until this is resolved. Make sure you are clear to the police, and if it helps perhaps take someone with you to help explain.

Cheers,
Andrew

See below Section 61 that i am referring to:

Section 61 Duty of driver etc. of motor vehicle if accident
occurs
(1) If owing to the presence of a motor vehicle an
accident occurs whereby any person is injured or
any property (including any animal) is damaged or
destroyed, the driver of the motor vehicle—
(a) must immediately stop the motor vehicle;
and
(b) must immediately render such assistance as
he or she can; and
(c) must at the scene of the accident as soon as
possible give his or her name and address
and also the name and address of the owner
of the motor vehicle and the identifying
number of the motor vehicle—
(i) to any person who has been injured or
to the owner of any property which has
been damaged or destroyed; or
(ii) to a person representing the injured
person or the owner of the property;
and
(d) must at the scene of the accident as soon as
possible give those names and addresses to
any member of the police force who is
present; and
(e) if any person is injured and no member of
the police force is present at the scene of the
accident, must as soon as possible report in
person full particulars of the accident at the
police station that is most accessible from the
scene of the accident if that station is open
and, if it is not open, at the next most
accessible station; and
(f) if any property is damaged or destroyed and
neither the owner of the property nor any
person representing the owner nor any
member of the police force is present at the
scene of the accident, must as soon as
possible report in person full particulars of
the accident at the police station that is most
accessible from the scene of the accident if
that station is open and, if it is not open, at
the next most accessible station.

(2) If a motor vehicle which has been left standing on
a highway moves of its own accord from the
position in which it was left and is involved in an
accident whereby any person is injured or any
property (including any animal) is damaged or
destroyed, the person who left the motor vehicle
so standing must as soon as possible after
becoming aware of the accident comply as far as
the circumstances permit with the requirements of
subsection (1).
(3) If—
(a) as a result of an accident involving a motor
vehicle a person is killed or suffers serious
injury; and
(b) the driver of the motor vehicle knows or
ought reasonably to have known that the
accident had occurred and had resulted in a
person being killed or suffering serious
injury; and
(c) the driver of the motor vehicle does not
comply with the requirements of paragraph
(a) or (b) of subsection (1) in relation to the
accident—
the driver is guilty of an indictable offence and
liable to level 5 imprisonment (10 years
maximum) or a level 5 fine (1200 penalty units
maximum).
(4) If—
(a) as a result of the accident a person is killed
or suffers serious injury then a person who
contravenes paragraph (c), (d) or (e) of
subsection (1) is guilty of an offence; or
(b) as a result of the accident a person is
otherwise injured then a person who
contravenes any provision of this section is
guilty of an offence—
and liable for a first offence to a penalty of not
more than 80 penalty units or to imprisonment for
a term of not more than 8 months and for a
subsequent offence to a penalty of not more than
240 penalty units or to imprisonment for a term of
not less than 4 months and not more than 2 years.
(5) If no person is killed or suffers injury as a result of
the accident then a person who contravenes any
provision of this section is guilty of an offence
and liable for a first offence to a penalty of not
more than 5 penalty units or to imprisonment for a
term of not more than 14 days and for a
subsequent offence to a penalty of not more than
10 penalty units or to imprisonment for a term of
not less than 14 days and not more than 1 month.
(6) On conviction of a person for, or finding a person
guilty of, an offence against this section, if a
person is killed or suffers serious injury as a result
of the accident, the court must cancel all driver
licences and permits held by the convicted person
and, whether or not that person holds a driver
licence, disqualify him or her from obtaining one
for—
(a) in the case of a first offence, at least 4 years
if a conviction is recorded and at least
2 years in any other case; and
(b) in the case of a subsequent offence, at least
8 years if a conviction is recorded and at
least 4 years in any other case.
(7) If a person who is convicted or found guilty of an
offence against any provision of this section has at
any time been convicted or found guilty of an
offence against another provision of this section or
any previous enactment corresponding to any of
those provisions, the conviction for, or finding of
guilt of, the offence against that provision is to be
taken to be a conviction for, or finding of guilt of,
a subsequent offence.
(8) The specifying by subsection (3) of fault elements
for an offence against that subsection is not
intended to affect the question of whether fault
elements are required for any other offence
against this section or any other provision of this
Act.

[DJC]

Sorry to hear the bad news Naldo. I can only reinforce what everyone else has said so far, and that's get fully comprehensive insurance, and speak to the Police again, especially in light of the information supplied above ^^^.

With spare parts simply try a wrecker. I've seen GenIV light covers at a wreckers here in Sydney before, surely you should be able to find one in Melbourne. Shop around, ring as many places as you can, and source the best deal.

Best of luck!

[vp920b]

Hi Naldo,

Sorry to hear about ur incident. You really should have full comp insurance for tricky situations like this; if you can't afford it, just drive a suitable car (i.e. one only worth a few $k). Please don't try and get full comp down the track and try to claim this accident at a later date - remember you have already told ur insurance company about this accident so they already know and have no doubt noted it in their system.

Also, when u spoke to the police did you say that the other drive gave you wrong details? According to Section 61 of the Road Safety Act 1986 they are required to give you their details. If they don't give correct details they have not acted in accordance with the Road Safety Act. If i'm not mistaken it the job of Police to intervene in situations where the law is broken. But i could be naive in thinking our taxes actually go to law enforcement....

I suggest you talk to the police again if it is quite clear that the incorrect details have been given as that is illegal. I know this is not ur country but you have every right to be here and the same laws apply to everyone.

Good luck with getting it sorted. Like Jim said, i would be reluctant to purchase parts out of ur own pocket until this is resolved. Make sure you are clear to the police, and if it helps perhaps take someone with you to help explain.

Cheers,
Andrew

See below Section 61 that i am referring to:

Section 61 Duty of driver etc. of motor vehicle if accident
occurs
(1) If owing to the presence of a motor vehicle an
accident occurs whereby any person is injured or
any property (including any animal) is damaged or
destroyed, the driver of the motor vehicle—
(a) must immediately stop the motor vehicle;
and
(b) must immediately render such assistance as
he or she can; and
(c) must at the scene of the accident as soon as
possible give his or her name and address
and also the name and address of the owner
of the motor vehicle and the identifying
number of the motor vehicle—
(i) to any person who has been injured or
to the owner of any property which has
been damaged or destroyed; or
(ii) to a person representing the injured
person or the owner of the property;
and
(d) must at the scene of the accident as soon as
possible give those names and addresses to
any member of the police force who is
present; and
(e) if any person is injured and no member of
the police force is present at the scene of the
accident, must as soon as possible report in
person full particulars of the accident at the
police station that is most accessible from the
scene of the accident if that station is open
and, if it is not open, at the next most
accessible station; and
(f) if any property is damaged or destroyed and
neither the owner of the property nor any
person representing the owner nor any
member of the police force is present at the
scene of the accident, must as soon as
possible report in person full particulars of
the accident at the police station that is most
accessible from the scene of the accident if
that station is open and, if it is not open, at
the next most accessible station.

(2) If a motor vehicle which has been left standing on
a highway moves of its own accord from the
position in which it was left and is involved in an
accident whereby any person is injured or any
property (including any animal) is damaged or
destroyed, the person who left the motor vehicle
so standing must as soon as possible after
becoming aware of the accident comply as far as
the circumstances permit with the requirements of
subsection (1).
(3) If—
(a) as a result of an accident involving a motor
vehicle a person is killed or suffers serious
injury; and
(b) the driver of the motor vehicle knows or
ought reasonably to have known that the
accident had occurred and had resulted in a
person being killed or suffering serious
injury; and
(c) the driver of the motor vehicle does not
comply with the requirements of paragraph
(a) or (b) of subsection (1) in relation to the
accident—
the driver is guilty of an indictable offence and
liable to level 5 imprisonment (10 years
maximum) or a level 5 fine (1200 penalty units
maximum).
(4) If—
(a) as a result of the accident a person is killed
or suffers serious injury then a person who
contravenes paragraph (c), (d) or (e) of
subsection (1) is guilty of an offence; or
(b) as a result of the accident a person is
otherwise injured then a person who
contravenes any provision of this section is
guilty of an offence—
and liable for a first offence to a penalty of not
more than 80 penalty units or to imprisonment for
a term of not more than 8 months and for a
subsequent offence to a penalty of not more than
240 penalty units or to imprisonment for a term of
not less than 4 months and not more than 2 years.
(5) If no person is killed or suffers injury as a result of
the accident then a person who contravenes any
provision of this section is guilty of an offence
and liable for a first offence to a penalty of not
more than 5 penalty units or to imprisonment for a
term of not more than 14 days and for a
subsequent offence to a penalty of not more than
10 penalty units or to imprisonment for a term of
not less than 14 days and not more than 1 month.
(6) On conviction of a person for, or finding a person
guilty of, an offence against this section, if a
person is killed or suffers serious injury as a result
of the accident, the court must cancel all driver
licences and permits held by the convicted person
and, whether or not that person holds a driver
licence, disqualify him or her from obtaining one
for—
(a) in the case of a first offence, at least 4 years
if a conviction is recorded and at least
2 years in any other case; and
(b) in the case of a subsequent offence, at least
8 years if a conviction is recorded and at
least 4 years in any other case.
(7) If a person who is convicted or found guilty of an
offence against any provision of this section has at
any time been convicted or found guilty of an
offence against another provision of this section or
any previous enactment corresponding to any of
those provisions, the conviction for, or finding of
guilt of, the offence against that provision is to be
taken to be a conviction for, or finding of guilt of,
a subsequent offence.
(8) The specifying by subsection (3) of fault elements
for an offence against that subsection is not
intended to affect the question of whether fault
elements are required for any other offence
against this section or any other provision of this
Act.

Thanks Andrew for the info. Really appreciate it.

On Monday I'll meet with my teacher who is a lawyer. Will ask them about this. Maybe he can help me out.

Well, it's not about I can or I can't afford. But I just feel guilty to my parents, that I spend a lot of money just for the sake of this car. Until now, my service already gone more than 5000 AUD in 4 months. Then now an accident, I need to buy new headlight which is 755AUD, or less if buy from wreckers. But if I can't find one, I will buy from US, which is pair only 400AUD and make it like the US version.

And now, I'd been painting(touch up) my fender and hood, since my fender already gone into the steel and my hood already 1 step above the steel. So for the mean time, I need to protect it to prevent corrosion and stuff like that. And on monday or tuesday, i'll try to find some body repair to get a quote. Mostly wreckers and body repair on saturday close, so yeah, I need to wait.

Thanks all for the information. Really appreciate it.

Cheers

Naldo

[andy85]

hang on.. at the time of the accident, did u look at his licence and took down his address or did he just "told" u his address?

[adhar]

hang on.. at the time of the accident, did u look at his licence and took down his address or did he just "told" u his address?

Already covered. A valuable lesson learnt by Naldo here.

That's my mistake. I didn't ask for driving license and etc. And I gave my full details.

Well, at least I learn something from here.

Cheers

[vp920b]

At last,

My brand new headlights from USA has been arrived safely to my home.

But there is a slight difference, not the projector is using HB3 light, where the original is H7 globe.

But all globes are included in the package and all Phillips brand with brand new socket.

Hopefully this will fit perfectly without any problem.

But I still ask the seller about how do I know it is for RHD version or LHD version.


Thanks all.

[phatz]

At last,

My brand new headlights from USA has been arrived safely to my home.

But there is a slight difference, not the projector is using HB3 light, where the original is H7 globe.

But all globes are included in the package and all Phillips brand with brand new socket.

Hopefully this will fit perfectly without any problem.

But I still ask the seller about how do I know it is for RHD version or LHD version.


Thanks all.

I always thought the USD headlights being LHD had there beam cut offs mirror image to us? If thats the case you might want to be careful when aiming the new lights, you might blind oncoming traffic!

[vp920b]

The headlight got 2 different version.

Seller told me that there are a LHD version and RHD version.

This was made in Taiwan with the OEM standard, pass all the requirement, DOT something and something.

And they said mine is the RHD version.

Hopefully it's right. And if not, well, Headlights can be adjust, so takes time to adjust the headlight.

Cheers

[teK--]

I thought you bought genuine lights.. i.e. Made in Japan.

Personally I don't like aftermarket head and tail lamps, I see a lot with condensation issues.

[vp920b]

Well, I think I got another problem.

There's no hole to put my parkers light.

If I can't put it, then it will be equal to spend 350bucks give away.

If I buy brand new headlights, in today's case then I need to buy both pairs for 1400AUD.

I'm broke. I don't know what to say now with this car...

Thanks all.

[teK--]

That's strange Naldo, even the LHD cars have parker lights. I'd be going back to the seller to ask them why they are selling aftermarket lamps which aren't a direct copy of the factory ones (if they gave the impression that they are an exact replica)...

[vp920b]

I'll go to subaru workshop near my home on Thursday.

I will try to discuss with him. I know it's strange but it's true.

Because on Thursday I like to fit this headlights ASAP.

Thanks