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NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:57 am
by teK--
I've been loathing the stock ETC mapping since I bought this car. It seems as though every time I step on the pedal, that all the little 1's and 0's in the ECU go and have a tea party to debate about what instruction they'll pass onto the engine for me.

Previously the Sprintbooster was one of the more common units to augment the ETC map, but I didn't like the fact that it is fixed to their factory calibration. There is a newer one out which has been getting good feedback; it allows 7 levels of "sports" calibrations, an ECO calibration, and it defaults back to normal (unchanged) when you switch off the car.

Info/review:
http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123112

Group buy is running for another FOUR days:
http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123318

Shipping to Australia is extra 20USD on top of the quoted price (basically 170USD). Since our dollar is so kickass (even more than the Vietnamese Dong) it works out to only 185AUD. I have put my name down for one and it should get here by Xmas.

Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:52 pm
by TETT
hey jim .the NTD is a copy of PIVOT, make in Taiwan , i have a fd has put this one on his car b4 , only used for 2 month and have problem with his computer :twisted:

i know PIVOT is expensive,u can try this one , also make in Taiwan , but better and good quality. i am going to get one on this Xmas .

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... 3a54040b63


http://www.shadowmotor.com.tw/sprot-drag-motor.htm

Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:26 pm
by teK--
Hey Terry the person organising the NTD groupbuy said that there was a copy of their product... perhaps the Shadow one is the copy; or is it the other way around lol. Both products look identical.

Also can you pls elaborate as to what computer issues your friend had? I can't see how a gas pedal intercepter could cause any problems since it doesn't exceed the range/speed of motion that your foot could anyway?

Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:26 pm
by Hotwire
Tek - are you simply looking for permenant throttle response fix, or switchable like this device provides? The reason I ask is if you are looking for a 1 time adjusment (i.e. you leave it in sport all the time) then why not look at correcting your DBW (Drive By Wire) tables via an opensource tune? I'm sure someone in Melb with a tactrix cable could help you out for free or very minimal outlay.....

BUT if you want the switchability (SI Drive like copy) then this seems reasonable.

Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:52 pm
by teK--
Hey Lee I'm looking for something switchable (since with this car I do not know what an throttle map would look like on paper). I have followed some threads regarding people who have changed them with varying results. The ideal map was definately not a straight, linear line.

I'm also a bit apprehensive about getting into the ROM and changing things around, even if it's only the throttle map. with the ETC module it's risk free, instantly reversible, and I can have different settings for different situations :)

Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:36 pm
by teK--
I just ordered one it should hopefully arrive in about 2 weeks time. I'll post up a review once I fit it.

From what I can find there are 3 units that look identical with the same features and from different manufacturers. There is one from "Shadow", "NTD" (the one I'm buying), and Pivot. I have listed them in order of cheapest to most expensive.

Quite likely the same factory in Taiwan pumping them out and they are getting rebranded.

Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:14 pm
by swingn
Pretty sure Blitz make a throttle controller that does what your talking about.

Work's a little bit like SI drive, but it more performance focused :D

Not as cheap as what you're currently looking at (Last time I looked it was around $400.00 AUD) but from my experience you get what you pay for... But that's not to say you can't get good lower cost stuff... I'm just a brand whore... :lol:

Interested to see your thoughts after you have installed etc :D

Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:36 pm
by teK--
Hey Matty I saw the Blitz one it doesn't even look as good as the NTD one (plastic looks cheap) and it costs a lot more! Both should achieve the desired result :)

The NTD one turned out being $193.00 inc. shipping from the USA.

Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:46 pm
by swingn
teK-- wrote:Hey Matty I saw the Blitz one it doesn't even look as good as the NTD one (plastic looks cheap) and it costs a lot more! Both should achieve the desired result :)

The NTD one turned out being $193.00 inc. shipping from the USA.


Trust me, the Blitz one doesn't look cheap... Know a few people who have them in their Libs & they look nice :D Plus it's Blitz 8) It matches my CAI... heheheheheheh

Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:55 pm
by tangcla
I probably would have gone for the Prova one personally. But they probably are identical :P

Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:57 pm
by swingn
tangcla wrote:I probably would have gone for the Prova one personally. But they probably are identical :P


Didn't realise Prova made electronic bits & pieces... Post a link mate :)

Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:18 pm
by TETT
the Blitz one about 250-280 USD

Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:19 pm
by swingn
TETT wrote:the Blitz one about 250-280 USD


It's come down in price aye... Might have to speak to the man who knows how to get things 8)

Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:45 pm
by teK--
swingn wrote:
teK-- wrote:Hey Matty I saw the Blitz one it doesn't even look as good as the NTD one (plastic looks cheap) and it costs a lot more! Both should achieve the desired result :)

The NTD one turned out being $193.00 inc. shipping from the USA.


Trust me, the Blitz one doesn't look cheap... Know a few people who have them in their Libs & they look nice :D Plus it's Blitz 8) It matches my CAI... heheheheheheh


IMHO it does, (I've seen the pics lol): Image (I don't like the chrome buttons either).

Compared to the NTD/Shadow/Pivot one: Image

Re: NTD Adjustable electronic throttle controller

PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:30 pm
by tangcla
teK-- wrote:IMHO it does,

Yeah that does look pretty cheap and nasty.