"Project Locomotive," Suspension build log

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Re: "Project Locomotive," Suspension build log

Postby teK-- » Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:17 pm

One year to the day for an update. Fact is that cash has been tight but other than that I have been really happy with how everything is running.

An opportunity came up to upgrade to a set of brakes off a GT so what better to compliment my suspension build :)

This was a full day back breaking DIY job including lots of scrubbing and cleaning the crusty GT brakes. I wanted them spotless and repacked with fresh grease etc before fitting them on.

I ended up going with Remsa Master HPT series pads F/R. They are a European OEM pad with ~.45CoF and 0-650degC rating. It is a nice medium having previously ran 0.48CoF 0-750degC pads.

Notes as follows:

- GT/3.0 calipers, brackets, lines, rotors are a straight bolt-on for the 2.5i/2.0(R).

- You can keep your old brake lines they are the same. I left mine in place. At a minimum you need to fit new rotors, pads, calipers, brackets. All other hardware, bolts etc the same.

- Front dust shield is dwarfed by the new rotors. I thought they were an issue but they are fine. I'm not sure if GT/3.0 shields are bigger.

- I'm not sure if the rear discs have a different internal diameter where the handbrake shoe rubs against, because I had to loosen the handbrake a fair bit to get the new discs to fit on (using the ratchet wheel behind the rear brake dust shield).

- Fill the new caliper with brake fluid using a syringe before you connect it up to the lines; rock it back and forth while slowly filling. Bubbles will keep coming up as the fluid moves into all the corners of the chamber. It makes bleeding a LOT easier later. I was surpised at how few bubbles came through since I did this.

- Some people don't replace the copper washer/gaskets for the brake lines. At $1.50/pair I chose to fit new ones just in case.


Result: Brakes are SUPER now; I'm worried I'm going to do a flip if I'm going downhill :lol: I can see why they put smaller brakes on the 2.5i which is a >100kg lighter car.

The first time I went over a few bumps I did notice one unexpected side effect in that the suspension feels harder. I can only put this down to the fact that the bigger brakes add around 2-3kg to each of the front wheels and 1-2kg to each of the rear wheels = more unsprung weight. Maybe it's time for some Rays Gramlights ;)
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Would be great for if I only had 16" wheels!
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Front rotors noticeably bigger for sure
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Front shields just big enough I was worried they were going to touch
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Rear discs aren't noticeably bigger but they do go ventilated which adds some decent weight.
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Fronts fill the wheels nicely now (39mm bigger rotors)
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Rear brakes are not as noticeably bigger (only 16mm bigger rotors)
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Re: "Project Locomotive," Suspension build log

Postby teK-- » Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:29 pm

Short of pulling out the pistons I cleaned these to oblivion. These facelift brakes have a nice silver zinc coating which I have not noticed before. Probably because they are always covered in dust :lol:
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Re: "Project Locomotive," Suspension build log

Postby rickerty » Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:52 pm

Good job Jim, I was wondering how you went with the upgrade.
Thanks for detailing your process, I have no doubt it will come in handy one of these days :wink:
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Re: "Project Locomotive," Suspension build log

Postby Sentinel » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:03 pm

Well done Jimbo!!

Glad that my ye-olde brakes have done what you wanted! :wink: Look great too!!

Cheers
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Re: "Project Locomotive," Suspension build log

Postby Devour » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:41 pm

Hey Jim,

The brake upgrade looks good. Well done on doing it all by yourself. Ill see it in action on monday mate.

Cheers,

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Re: "Project Locomotive," Suspension build log

Postby fatfrog02 » Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:36 pm

Tek,

What was the camber when you first lowered your car and how did you correct the camber?
Did you use the whiteline camber correction kit KCA399?
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