UK Spec B with Supercharger

Show off what mods you've done to your car.

Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby dan_ashcroft » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:32 pm

Spec BSC wrote:...very handy that the rad had let go now rather than...
once the new engine is built.

Not sure about upgrades. Thought Mishimoto do one but checking now I can only find one for H4s..?
dan_ashcroft
 
Posts: 181
Joined: Tue May 19, 2015 8:12 am
Location: Sydney
Car: MY06 3.0R-B on E85

Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby Spec BSC » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:55 am

dan_ashcroft wrote:
Spec BSC wrote:...very handy that the rad had let go now rather than...
once the new engine is built.

Not sure about upgrades. Thought Mishimoto do one but checking now I can only find one for H4s..?


Just gone with a standard rad in the end.
The first engine died after eating to much CAT
The second engine died of a broken piston
The third engine is in the car
The fourth engine is in the machine shop

So far: Rotrex Supercharger (16 psi) with WTA intercooler,DW300c fuel pump,565cc Pink injectors
Producing 431bhp and 350 lb/ft torque on the Rotrex SC not finished yet
Raptor headers, 75mm Milltek exhaust with Quad tips,
Custom made 4032 forged pistons by JE Pistons, forged conrods, Exedy Clutch
K sport 8 pot front, 4 pot rears all on 330mm discs, Hel brake lines
Meister R coil overs, Whiteline 21mm rear ARB, Perrin end links and strengthening brackets
Complete Whiteline kit for the front suspension including steering rack
One off Carbon effect Front grill, Carbon lip spoiler, Exterior De-chromed, LED interior light conversion.
Recaro Leather front seats with all functionality.
Waist spoiler, Smoked rear lights,, LED sill plates, LED sidelights
Prodrive PFF7's 18x8, in Bronze shod with 235/40/18 Goodyears.
User avatar
Spec BSC
 
Posts: 282
Joined: Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:53 am
Location: West Sussex, UK
Car: Spec B supercharged, forged engine
Real name: Richard
Profile URL: viewtopic.php?t=25835

Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby Flat6Estate » Fri Sep 16, 2016 7:13 am

Mishimoto don't do one for a H6. Apparently it is fairly easy to have one modded to suit a H6 though
MY08 Spec B 3.0L Manual Wagon
1998 Yamaha YZF600R Thundercat - a bit broken :-o
User avatar
Flat6Estate
formerly Timbo_rs2500
 
Posts: 374
Joined: Mon Jun 17, 2013 2:15 pm
Location: Lower Blue Mountains NSW
Car: 2007 MY08 Liberty Wagon 3RB 6spd
Real name: Tim
Profile URL: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=32189&p=425885#p425885

Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby KiDo_Tuning » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:10 pm

Flat6Estate wrote:Mishimoto don't do one for a H6. Apparently it is fairly easy to have one modded to suit a H6 though


Confirmed. Metal fabricator to fit another radiator outlet to top tank
KiDo Racing Tunes Info: HERE

Great minds discuss ideas;
Average minds discuss events;
Small minds discuss people
User avatar
KiDo_Tuning
 
Posts: 2798
Joined: Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:53 pm
Car: Subarus + Nissans
Real name: Matt

Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby Spec BSC » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:21 am

So a few things have been happening.

The other day went for a drive came home and then needed to go out again but the car failed to start. Plenty of clicking noises from the starter motor but no action. Figured maybe the battery had given up so tried it with a jump pack, same result.

Removed the starter motor and tried it on the bench, worked fine, weird. Put it back in the car, no change still plenty of clicking and no action. Having had a seized engine before I decided to try turning the engine on the crank pulley just to make sure. What a relief when it turned easily.

Starting to run out of ideas so I phoned a mate for ideas, decided to put a volt meter across the main terminal of the starter to make sure we were getting a 12v feed, meter showed 3.6v. Upon closer inspection this is what I found.

Image

The rubber cap was hiding the fact that the cable was starting to shear and then broke when i pulled the cap back.

As I don't own any tools strong enough to crimp a new terminal on I managed to source a replacement cable really cheap.

Image

I have finally got round to having the new mounting bracket water jet cut.

Image

So now just a little more work on the bracket before its first trial fit.
The first engine died after eating to much CAT
The second engine died of a broken piston
The third engine is in the car
The fourth engine is in the machine shop

So far: Rotrex Supercharger (16 psi) with WTA intercooler,DW300c fuel pump,565cc Pink injectors
Producing 431bhp and 350 lb/ft torque on the Rotrex SC not finished yet
Raptor headers, 75mm Milltek exhaust with Quad tips,
Custom made 4032 forged pistons by JE Pistons, forged conrods, Exedy Clutch
K sport 8 pot front, 4 pot rears all on 330mm discs, Hel brake lines
Meister R coil overs, Whiteline 21mm rear ARB, Perrin end links and strengthening brackets
Complete Whiteline kit for the front suspension including steering rack
One off Carbon effect Front grill, Carbon lip spoiler, Exterior De-chromed, LED interior light conversion.
Recaro Leather front seats with all functionality.
Waist spoiler, Smoked rear lights,, LED sill plates, LED sidelights
Prodrive PFF7's 18x8, in Bronze shod with 235/40/18 Goodyears.
User avatar
Spec BSC
 
Posts: 282
Joined: Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:53 am
Location: West Sussex, UK
Car: Spec B supercharged, forged engine
Real name: Richard
Profile URL: viewtopic.php?t=25835

Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby jslayz » Sun Jan 15, 2017 2:31 pm

Thanks for the update.

That cable is a strange issue, metal fatigue?
CURRENT - ATP GTX 3576 - 22psi - 283.7awkw
OLD - Dom 1.5Xtr - Last dyno 254ahkw, previous 238ahkw, first 224awkw.
My journey thread: http://forum.liberty.asn.au/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=15523
My Lib Pics here: http://forum.liberty.asn.au/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=15523&start=570#p370656
User avatar
jslayz
 
Posts: 2810
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:32 pm
Location: Perthhhhhh
Car: 2005 Liberty GT Wagon
Real name: J

Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby Spec BSC » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:38 am

So took Friday off to try and push things on.

Had a few more mods made to the bracket so time try the first trial fit.

Image

Success !!!! 8)

Then set about working out the belt run and where to put the pulley's and came up with the following set up.

Image

Then set about measuring what size belt I'm going to need and making a list of all the other small items needed to complete the install.

One issue is that the plug for the oil control valve that operates the AVCS is in the way. So went about modifying a spare by cutting back the plug housing and then making a couple of short leads that will connect back to the OEM loom via a superseal connector.

Image

So the last remaining obstacle will be ducting air into the supercharger, there's probably not enough space to use a silicone hose and I'm concerned that it may collapse under the vacuum at high compressor speeds. Will probably have to fab an ali duct.
The first engine died after eating to much CAT
The second engine died of a broken piston
The third engine is in the car
The fourth engine is in the machine shop

So far: Rotrex Supercharger (16 psi) with WTA intercooler,DW300c fuel pump,565cc Pink injectors
Producing 431bhp and 350 lb/ft torque on the Rotrex SC not finished yet
Raptor headers, 75mm Milltek exhaust with Quad tips,
Custom made 4032 forged pistons by JE Pistons, forged conrods, Exedy Clutch
K sport 8 pot front, 4 pot rears all on 330mm discs, Hel brake lines
Meister R coil overs, Whiteline 21mm rear ARB, Perrin end links and strengthening brackets
Complete Whiteline kit for the front suspension including steering rack
One off Carbon effect Front grill, Carbon lip spoiler, Exterior De-chromed, LED interior light conversion.
Recaro Leather front seats with all functionality.
Waist spoiler, Smoked rear lights,, LED sill plates, LED sidelights
Prodrive PFF7's 18x8, in Bronze shod with 235/40/18 Goodyears.
User avatar
Spec BSC
 
Posts: 282
Joined: Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:53 am
Location: West Sussex, UK
Car: Spec B supercharged, forged engine
Real name: Richard
Profile URL: viewtopic.php?t=25835

Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby jslayz » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:20 am

Great progress, in the home straight after that pipe?
CURRENT - ATP GTX 3576 - 22psi - 283.7awkw
OLD - Dom 1.5Xtr - Last dyno 254ahkw, previous 238ahkw, first 224awkw.
My journey thread: http://forum.liberty.asn.au/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=15523
My Lib Pics here: http://forum.liberty.asn.au/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=15523&start=570#p370656
User avatar
jslayz
 
Posts: 2810
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:32 pm
Location: Perthhhhhh
Car: 2005 Liberty GT Wagon
Real name: J

Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby Spec BSC » Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:52 am

jslayz wrote:Great progress, in the home straight after that pipe?


Got all the parts arriving this week! So yes it will just be the inlet pipe to sort. Then fingers crossed that it will deliver the goods and push the motor to cĺose to 500bhp at the flywheel.
User avatar
Spec BSC
 
Posts: 282
Joined: Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:53 am
Location: West Sussex, UK
Car: Spec B supercharged, forged engine
Real name: Richard
Profile URL: viewtopic.php?t=25835

Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby RX25SE » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:48 am

Love this build.
User avatar
RX25SE
 
Posts: 717
Joined: Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:43 am
Location: Melbourne
Car: MY02 RX Sed SpcEd; MY07 30RB 6sp Wag

Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby bigBADbenny » Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:58 am

Great work!!!
Will the final version of the mount require extra bracing, eg a lateral web, to prevent flex?
User avatar
bigBADbenny
 
Posts: 8247
Joined: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:36 pm
Location: Collingwood, Melbourne
Car: MY07 GT-B 6MT OBP Wagon
Real name: Ben Richards
Profile URL: http://tinyurl.com/agvbzop

Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby Spec BSC » Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:23 pm

bigBADbenny wrote:Great work!!!
Will the final version of the mount require extra bracing, eg a lateral web, to prevent flex?


There is currently a support halfway between the sc and the engine. Both of the sc's are similar in wait, not had any problems with the Raptor set up, but will keep an open mind and keep a close eye on it over the early stages.

Appreciate the thought.
The first engine died after eating to much CAT
The second engine died of a broken piston
The third engine is in the car
The fourth engine is in the machine shop

So far: Rotrex Supercharger (16 psi) with WTA intercooler,DW300c fuel pump,565cc Pink injectors
Producing 431bhp and 350 lb/ft torque on the Rotrex SC not finished yet
Raptor headers, 75mm Milltek exhaust with Quad tips,
Custom made 4032 forged pistons by JE Pistons, forged conrods, Exedy Clutch
K sport 8 pot front, 4 pot rears all on 330mm discs, Hel brake lines
Meister R coil overs, Whiteline 21mm rear ARB, Perrin end links and strengthening brackets
Complete Whiteline kit for the front suspension including steering rack
One off Carbon effect Front grill, Carbon lip spoiler, Exterior De-chromed, LED interior light conversion.
Recaro Leather front seats with all functionality.
Waist spoiler, Smoked rear lights,, LED sill plates, LED sidelights
Prodrive PFF7's 18x8, in Bronze shod with 235/40/18 Goodyears.
User avatar
Spec BSC
 
Posts: 282
Joined: Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:53 am
Location: West Sussex, UK
Car: Spec B supercharged, forged engine
Real name: Richard
Profile URL: viewtopic.php?t=25835

Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby Spec BSC » Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:01 am

All the bits are finally together, just need to find the time to do another build up to check everything and then just maybe off we go!!!!!!!!

Will the SC deliver, will we get a 500 bhp plus engine, fingers crossed.

Image
The first engine died after eating to much CAT
The second engine died of a broken piston
The third engine is in the car
The fourth engine is in the machine shop

So far: Rotrex Supercharger (16 psi) with WTA intercooler,DW300c fuel pump,565cc Pink injectors
Producing 431bhp and 350 lb/ft torque on the Rotrex SC not finished yet
Raptor headers, 75mm Milltek exhaust with Quad tips,
Custom made 4032 forged pistons by JE Pistons, forged conrods, Exedy Clutch
K sport 8 pot front, 4 pot rears all on 330mm discs, Hel brake lines
Meister R coil overs, Whiteline 21mm rear ARB, Perrin end links and strengthening brackets
Complete Whiteline kit for the front suspension including steering rack
One off Carbon effect Front grill, Carbon lip spoiler, Exterior De-chromed, LED interior light conversion.
Recaro Leather front seats with all functionality.
Waist spoiler, Smoked rear lights,, LED sill plates, LED sidelights
Prodrive PFF7's 18x8, in Bronze shod with 235/40/18 Goodyears.
User avatar
Spec BSC
 
Posts: 282
Joined: Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:53 am
Location: West Sussex, UK
Car: Spec B supercharged, forged engine
Real name: Richard
Profile URL: viewtopic.php?t=25835

Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby bigBADbenny » Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:23 pm

Rotrex certainly seem to be at the top of the game, I had to peep their electrically assisted SC...
How does the drive gear mechanism on yours work? Similar to a cvt or is it fixed gears inside?
User avatar
bigBADbenny
 
Posts: 8247
Joined: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:36 pm
Location: Collingwood, Melbourne
Car: MY07 GT-B 6MT OBP Wagon
Real name: Ben Richards
Profile URL: http://tinyurl.com/agvbzop

Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby Spec BSC » Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:04 pm

bigBADbenny wrote:Rotrex certainly seem to be at the top of the game, I had to peep their electrically assisted SC...
How does the drive gear mechanism on yours work? Similar to a cvt or is it fixed gears inside?


From my understanding, there are 2 drive plates close together immersed in traction fluid. As the input plate spins the fluid becomes more viscous and so the output plate turns, the faster the input plate turns the more viscous the fluid becomes and the more traction is imparted to the output.

Mine is setup to deliver 16 psi at approximately 7000tpm which needs an impeller speed of 75000 rpm.
The first engine died after eating to much CAT
The second engine died of a broken piston
The third engine is in the car
The fourth engine is in the machine shop

So far: Rotrex Supercharger (16 psi) with WTA intercooler,DW300c fuel pump,565cc Pink injectors
Producing 431bhp and 350 lb/ft torque on the Rotrex SC not finished yet
Raptor headers, 75mm Milltek exhaust with Quad tips,
Custom made 4032 forged pistons by JE Pistons, forged conrods, Exedy Clutch
K sport 8 pot front, 4 pot rears all on 330mm discs, Hel brake lines
Meister R coil overs, Whiteline 21mm rear ARB, Perrin end links and strengthening brackets
Complete Whiteline kit for the front suspension including steering rack
One off Carbon effect Front grill, Carbon lip spoiler, Exterior De-chromed, LED interior light conversion.
Recaro Leather front seats with all functionality.
Waist spoiler, Smoked rear lights,, LED sill plates, LED sidelights
Prodrive PFF7's 18x8, in Bronze shod with 235/40/18 Goodyears.
User avatar
Spec BSC
 
Posts: 282
Joined: Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:53 am
Location: West Sussex, UK
Car: Spec B supercharged, forged engine
Real name: Richard
Profile URL: viewtopic.php?t=25835

PreviousNext

Return to Post your mods

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests