Member Profile - Boostaddict

[Jack_Keaka]

So 4k just for the motor? Needs everything else to go with it to make it worth your while. Otherwise what's the point? This will blow over 5k so fkn quickly.

[Boostaddict]

So 4k just for the motor? Needs everything else to go with it to make it worth your while. Otherwise what's the point? This will blow over 5k so fkn quickly.

Was thinking something like this!!

Dunno what will work, just gotta do some research and talk to ALOT of people!!

http://risingsunsubaru.com.au/rvsindex. ... f845a3832f

[rooby]

I'm sure that monitoring your car to the most minute detail would provide good information to help you keep your car in tip top shape, however I think the monitoring obsession gets a bit excessive at times.

There is a factor that no one ever seems to mention in these types of discussions...

Motors, like pretty much everything else in the world, don't all come out of the factory the same.

Some motors will be weaker than others from the factory, which can lead to failure regardless of how you baby it.

It sometimes just comes down to the luck of the draw, like if I buy a new mobile phone and it stops working after a month.

Look at how most people on here look after their cars, doing maintenance constantly, changing oil every 5k, etc., yet sometimes they still break.

Then think about how many people buy a car and don't give a shit about it and don't ever get a service, or buy only the cheapest of everything they put into it, and the car does hundreds of thousands of kms with no issues.

Even in tuned cars this kind of thing happens.

Sure monitoring things can a good thing but it won't necessarily stop your engine from braking.

Also, when you start monitoring there is also a small chance that you will turn into a crazy obsessive, constantly worrying that there is something wrong with your car

Flame me all you like but it's true.

[bigBADbenny]

Of course you are correct, that's why cars have gauges for monitoring the coolant temp and fuel level etc...
And we're all obsessed with watching those yeah?

It's not about an obsession, it's a state of awareness.

[bigBADbenny]

And the OP should just do HG and studs for 3k and either learn to care for the car properly or part & sell up the repaired car and move on.
IMHO

[Newbie GT]

I'm sure that monitoring your car to the most minute detail would provide good information to help you keep your car in tip top shape, however I think the monitoring obsession gets a bit excessive at times.

There is a factor that no one ever seems to mention in these types of discussions...

Motors, like pretty much everything else in the world, don't all come out of the factory the same.

Some motors will be weaker than others from the factory, which can lead to failure regardless of how you baby it.

It sometimes just comes down to the luck of the draw, like if I buy a new mobile phone and it stops working after a month.

Look at how most people on here look after their cars, doing maintenance constantly, changing oil every 5k, etc., yet sometimes they still break.

Then think about how many people buy a car and don't give a shit about it and don't ever get a service, or buy only the cheapest of everything they put into it, and the car does hundreds of thousands of kms with no issues.

Even in tuned cars this kind of thing happens.

Sure monitoring things can a good thing but it won't necessarily stop your engine from braking.

Also, when you start monitoring there is also a small chance that you will turn into a crazy obsessive, constantly worrying that there is something wrong with your car

Flame me all you like but it's true.

Couldn't have said it better it becomes obsessive and makes other peoe start to worry and stop enjoying

[KiDo_Tuning]

I'm sure that monitoring your car to the most minute detail would provide good information to help you keep your car in tip top shape, however I think the monitoring obsession gets a bit excessive at times.

There is a factor that no one ever seems to mention in these types of discussions...

Motors, like pretty much everything else in the world, don't all come out of the factory the same.

Some motors will be weaker than others from the factory, which can lead to failure regardless of how you baby it.

It sometimes just comes down to the luck of the draw, like if I buy a new mobile phone and it stops working after a month.

Look at how most people on here look after their cars, doing maintenance constantly, changing oil every 5k, etc., yet sometimes they still break.

Then think about how many people buy a car and don't give a shit about it and don't ever get a service, or buy only the cheapest of everything they put into it, and the car does hundreds of thousands of kms with no issues.

Even in tuned cars this kind of thing happens.

Sure monitoring things can a good thing but it won't necessarily stop your engine from braking.

Also, when you start monitoring there is also a small chance that you will turn into a crazy obsessive, constantly worrying that there is something wrong with your car

Flame me all you like but it's true.

Correct, sometimes the obvious answer is the right one

[dr20t]

Subaru Horizontally opposed engines, whether we like it or not, are more fragile generally that their inline counterparts

That's the reality. Subaru also built most motors to handle a set limit of power.

I have been one to mention that stock bottom end on a ej255 (all post facelift Gt's) is good for up to 220-230atw for some sort of reliability. But I would cap that realistically at no more than 50,000kms with a sliding scale depending on the type of driving.

The order of driving style that reduces engine life is : circuit racing, drag racing, hard street driving, poorly maintainer short trips. In that order in my opinion. However underpinning all of those driving styles are luck, fuel type, minor and major mechanical failures

It could really come down to one bad batch of fuel and a wot pull that causes knock and pits the bearing or blows a headgasket.

So as Rooby said it is luck of the draw sometimes. However there is no disputing monitoring being an effective "eye" over your setup. At minimum, you should run a boost gauge and wideband once you have ANY engine / exhaust mods / tune. You could then supplement that with oil pressure, oil temp, fuel pressure and egt gauges to watch it all

Dan - you won't get much change from 3k for standard head rebuild and new gaskets with maybe some arp headstuds.

And if changing to an 08 onward Sti motor (dual avcs ej257), then you can pretty much double the cost of the motor alone for the total job to do it right

That's with stock turbo and bolt ons. More if you want to change these

And then you will still have the cast pistons with (imho) incorrectly placed wrist pins that make them susceptible to breaking. It will handle more than an ej255 but not much more

Look for cheap second hand ej255 with low kms and then fix your tune

Mick

[Newbie GT]

Subaru Horizontally opposed engines, whether we like it or not, are more fragile generally that their inline counterparts

That's the reality. Subaru also built most motors to handle a set limit of power.

I have been one to mention that stock bottom end on a ej255 (all post facelift Gt's) is good for up to 220-230atw for some sort of reliability. But I would cap that realistically at no more than 50,000kms with a sliding scale depending on the type of driving.

The order of driving style that reduces engine life is : circuit racing, drag racing, hard street driving, poorly maintainer short trips. In that order in my opinion. However underpinning all of those driving styles are luck, fuel type, minor and major mechanical failures

It could really come down to one bad batch of fuel and a wot pull that causes knock and pits the bearing or blows a headgasket.

So as Rooby said it is luck of the draw sometimes. However there is no disputing monitoring being an effective "eye" over your setup. At minimum, you should run a boost gauge and wideband once you have ANY engine / exhaust mods / tune. You could then supplement that with oil pressure, oil temp, fuel pressure and egt gauges to watch it all

Dan - you won't get much change from 3k for standard head rebuild and new gaskets with maybe some arp headstuds.

And if changing to an 08 onward Sti motor (dual avcs ej257), then you can pretty much double the cost of the motor alone for the total job to do it right

That's with stock turbo and bolt ons. More if you want to change these

And then you will still have the cast pistons with (imho) incorrectly placed wrist pins that make them susceptible to breaking. It will handle more than an ej255 but not much more

Look for cheap second hand ej255 with low kms and then fix your tune

Mick

I have been one to mention that stock bottom end on a ej255 (all post facelift Gt's) is good for up to 220-230atw for some sort of reliability. But I would cap that realistically at no more than 50,000kms with a sliding scale depending on the type of driving. Mick are you saying the above is good for an engine with less than 50k on clock ? Or mods only for the life of 50k ?

Cheers

[bigBADbenny]

Subaru Horizontally opposed engines, whether we like it or not, are more fragile generally that their inline counterparts

That's the reality. Subaru also built most motors to handle a set limit of power.

I have been one to mention that stock bottom end on a ej255 (all post facelift Gt's) is good for up to 220-230atw for some sort of reliability. But I would cap that realistically at no more than 50,000kms with a sliding scale depending on the type of driving.

The order of driving style that reduces engine life is : circuit racing, drag racing, hard street driving, poorly maintainer short trips. In that order in my opinion. However underpinning all of those driving styles are luck, fuel type, minor and major mechanical failures

It could really come down to one bad batch of fuel and a wot pull that causes knock and pits the bearing or blows a headgasket.

So as Rooby said it is luck of the draw sometimes. However there is no disputing monitoring being an effective "eye" over your setup. At minimum, you should run a boost gauge and wideband once you have ANY engine / exhaust mods / tune. You could then supplement that with oil pressure, oil temp, fuel pressure and egt gauges to watch it all

Dan - you won't get much change from 3k for standard head rebuild and new gaskets with maybe some arp headstuds.

And if changing to an 08 onward Sti motor (dual avcs ej257), then you can pretty much double the cost of the motor alone for the total job to do it right

That's with stock turbo and bolt ons. More if you want to change these

And then you will still have the cast pistons with (imho) incorrectly placed wrist pins that make them susceptible to breaking. It will handle more than an ej255 but not much more

Look for cheap second hand ej255 with low kms and then fix your tune

Mick

Like this one?
viewtopic.php?f=68&t=22952&start=0&hilit=Garage

OP could DIY and have some left over for a Kando and an afr guage



Not that I'd want to encourage any unhealthy obsessions

I'm going back to my research on 4 channel egt

[bass_straitener]

I'm sure that monitoring your car to the most minute detail would provide good information to help you keep your car in tip top shape, however I think the monitoring obsession gets a bit excessive at times.

There is a factor that no one ever seems to mention in these types of discussions...

Motors, like pretty much everything else in the world, don't all come out of the factory the same.

Some motors will be weaker than others from the factory, which can lead to failure regardless of how you baby it.

It sometimes just comes down to the luck of the draw, like if I buy a new mobile phone and it stops working after a month.

Look at how most people on here look after their cars, doing maintenance constantly, changing oil every 5k, etc., yet sometimes they still break.

Then think about how many people buy a car and don't give a shit about it and don't ever get a service, or buy only the cheapest of everything they put into it, and the car does hundreds of thousands of kms with no issues.

Even in tuned cars this kind of thing happens.

Sure monitoring things can a good thing but it won't necessarily stop your engine from braking.

Also, when you start monitoring there is also a small chance that you will turn into a crazy obsessive, constantly worrying that there is something wrong with your car

Flame me all you like but it's true.

In the last month 5 TBSTI Libertys have done head gaskets. Most have had aftermarket tunes. Are you suggesting these were all just badly built engines?

When looking at buying used cars should good documented service history not mean a thing in selecting a vehicle. And in fact it's all luck of the draw?

No one's saying become obsessive, but an understanding of their tune and the basics of diagnostic tools like learning view output and their likely causes would save thousands of dollars for each of individuals who've suffered head gasket failure. Or you can believe your tuner and the hour spent on the road where miraculously your car feels a million times better with no cost to any mechanical part.

I personally, coming from background where risk management is a major consideration, can't see why you'd run 40% more boost, a heap more timing, run leaner, more aggressive AVCS settings, induce earlier spool etc and not consider a basic understanding of the principles behind it. A Tactrix cable at $200, to check the ECU for any stored DTCs, pre-emotive DTCs and how your knock management is going seems a good risk management strategy. Not to be classified for the crazy.

Your cars engine will change from the day it was tuned. The engine wears, dodgy fuel, vac leaks, failing solenoids etc will all create adverse conditions. Why are there so many tune tweak posts in the Kido tunes threads?

As for Dan, sorry mate if it wasn't the response you were looking for. I was just being realistic given the budget you have to work with. A quick breakup of costs would see no change from $3500 for a basic rebuild. You then have to consider what went wrong and mitigation. Maybe some more parts like OCVs. Then your wife will kill you.. Game over..

[ricco]

swap for gen 5 u already have the kids you got to get the family sedan

[Boostaddict]

Subaru Horizontally opposed engines, whether we like it or not, are more fragile generally that their inline counterparts

That's the reality. Subaru also built most motors to handle a set limit of power.

I have been one to mention that stock bottom end on a ej255 (all post facelift Gt's) is good for up to 220-230atw for some sort of reliability. But I would cap that realistically at no more than 50,000kms with a sliding scale depending on the type of driving.

The order of driving style that reduces engine life is : circuit racing, drag racing, hard street driving, poorly maintainer short trips. In that order in my opinion. However underpinning all of those driving styles are luck, fuel type, minor and major mechanical failures

It could really come down to one bad batch of fuel and a wot pull that causes knock and pits the bearing or blows a headgasket.

So as Rooby said it is luck of the draw sometimes. However there is no disputing monitoring being an effective "eye" over your setup. At minimum, you should run a boost gauge and wideband once you have ANY engine / exhaust mods / tune. You could then supplement that with oil pressure, oil temp, fuel pressure and egt gauges to watch it all

Dan - you won't get much change from 3k for standard head rebuild and new gaskets with maybe some arp headstuds.

And if changing to an 08 onward Sti motor (dual avcs ej257), then you can pretty much double the cost of the motor alone for the total job to do it right

That's with stock turbo and bolt ons. More if you want to change these

And then you will still have the cast pistons with (imho) incorrectly placed wrist pins that make them susceptible to breaking. It will handle more than an ej255 but not much more

Look for cheap second hand ej255 with low kms and then fix your tune

Mick

Thanks Mick for the honest answer.

I love this car, and infact it is the only car besides my Black B4 that I genuinely get excited about driving!

I have 2 thoughts.

1- Do the head gasket and maybe chuck in some head studs ,Cossie gasket and port those fecking TGV's.!! Get the tune looked at to ensure its all good. Buy a wideband. Replace my AF sensor which I'm sure is farked to stop this bloody P0171 code coming up .
ANNNNNDDDD live with it. The stock bottom end will be fine with my power. Then when we have upgraded our house and in a few years when I own this thing , slowly and sensibly build a weapon of a motor/turbo combo!!

2- Buy Micks motor or alike and get the gauge etc and above. But run the risk that ANY second hand motor may be farked or on its way. But potentionally save maybe $1500-2k.

I think they are really my only 2 options. Unless the missis turns around and has a complete back flip and says yep build a weapon motor.!!! NEVER GUNNA HAPPEN.!

OR.

(Flame suit on)

Is there another drop in type of motor.?? IE a Lexus 1uzfe.?? That will bolt in with relative ease??

Throwing that out there...... Maybe not under the budget but could be a winner.!!!!

Would love a 2JZ.....!!! Pull one out of a Lexus IS300 and turbo the fucker???

Dreaming I know!!!

[Boostaddict]

And the OP should just do HG and studs for 3k and either learn to care for the car properly or part & sell up the repaired car and move on.
IMHO

Are you referring to the fact that I don't have a wideband that I don't care for my car properly ???

[bass_straitener]

Also Dan, I've seen a couple of instances where once the engine is out ringland damage is discovered. Then what would you do?