UK Spec B with Supercharger

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Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby jslayz » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:03 pm

sweet progress Richard.
Get my car al sorted in a few weeks too 8)
CURRENT - ATP GTX 3576 - 22psi - 283.7awkw
OLD - Dom 1.5Xtr - Last dyno 254ahkw, previous 238ahkw, first 224awkw.
My journey thread: http://forum.liberty.asn.au/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=15523
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Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby Spec BSC » Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:56 am

jslayz wrote:sweet progress Richard.
Get my car al sorted in a few weeks too 8)


Look forward to the update. :D
The first engine died after eating to much CAT
The second engine died of a broken piston
The third engine is in the car
The fourth engine is in the machine shop

So far: Rotrex Supercharger (16 psi) with WTA intercooler,DW300c fuel pump,565cc Pink injectors
Producing 431bhp and 350 lb/ft torque on the Rotrex SC not finished yet
Raptor headers, 75mm Milltek exhaust with Quad tips,
Custom made 4032 forged pistons by JE Pistons, forged conrods, Exedy Clutch
K sport 8 pot front, 4 pot rears all on 330mm discs, Hel brake lines
Meister R coil overs, Whiteline 21mm rear ARB, Perrin end links and strengthening brackets
Complete Whiteline kit for the front suspension including steering rack
One off Carbon effect Front grill, Carbon lip spoiler, Exterior De-chromed, LED interior light conversion.
Recaro Leather front seats with all functionality.
Waist spoiler, Smoked rear lights,, LED sill plates, LED sidelights
Prodrive PFF7's 18x8, in Bronze shod with 235/40/18 Goodyears.
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Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby Spec BSC » Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:00 am

So after having watched the Go fast Brett video on fuel pressure regulators, I recognised one or two things he was describing. So going to change out the stock item, also going to do a mod to the fuel rails so that we can use a 3 port regulator. More to follow.
The first engine died after eating to much CAT
The second engine died of a broken piston
The third engine is in the car
The fourth engine is in the machine shop

So far: Rotrex Supercharger (16 psi) with WTA intercooler,DW300c fuel pump,565cc Pink injectors
Producing 431bhp and 350 lb/ft torque on the Rotrex SC not finished yet
Raptor headers, 75mm Milltek exhaust with Quad tips,
Custom made 4032 forged pistons by JE Pistons, forged conrods, Exedy Clutch
K sport 8 pot front, 4 pot rears all on 330mm discs, Hel brake lines
Meister R coil overs, Whiteline 21mm rear ARB, Perrin end links and strengthening brackets
Complete Whiteline kit for the front suspension including steering rack
One off Carbon effect Front grill, Carbon lip spoiler, Exterior De-chromed, LED interior light conversion.
Recaro Leather front seats with all functionality.
Waist spoiler, Smoked rear lights,, LED sill plates, LED sidelights
Prodrive PFF7's 18x8, in Bronze shod with 235/40/18 Goodyears.
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Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby Spec BSC » Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:21 am

Got home tonight to find an early delivery from Santa.

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The rad has been designed to be a straight swap using all the Subaru fans etc. Will get it installed over the weekend.
The first engine died after eating to much CAT
The second engine died of a broken piston
The third engine is in the car
The fourth engine is in the machine shop

So far: Rotrex Supercharger (16 psi) with WTA intercooler,DW300c fuel pump,565cc Pink injectors
Producing 431bhp and 350 lb/ft torque on the Rotrex SC not finished yet
Raptor headers, 75mm Milltek exhaust with Quad tips,
Custom made 4032 forged pistons by JE Pistons, forged conrods, Exedy Clutch
K sport 8 pot front, 4 pot rears all on 330mm discs, Hel brake lines
Meister R coil overs, Whiteline 21mm rear ARB, Perrin end links and strengthening brackets
Complete Whiteline kit for the front suspension including steering rack
One off Carbon effect Front grill, Carbon lip spoiler, Exterior De-chromed, LED interior light conversion.
Recaro Leather front seats with all functionality.
Waist spoiler, Smoked rear lights,, LED sill plates, LED sidelights
Prodrive PFF7's 18x8, in Bronze shod with 235/40/18 Goodyears.
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Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby jslayz » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:30 pm

Nice one!

Good luck with the instal.

When is tuuuune ??
CURRENT - ATP GTX 3576 - 22psi - 283.7awkw
OLD - Dom 1.5Xtr - Last dyno 254ahkw, previous 238ahkw, first 224awkw.
My journey thread: http://forum.liberty.asn.au/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=15523
My Lib Pics here: http://forum.liberty.asn.au/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=15523&start=570#p370656
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Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby Spec BSC » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:40 pm

jslayz wrote:Nice one!

Good luck with the instal.

When is tuuuune ??


In the process of having some fuel rails altered so that I can run a 3 port fuel pressure regulator. Fit those and the new inlet tract and then off for the tune.
The first engine died after eating to much CAT
The second engine died of a broken piston
The third engine is in the car
The fourth engine is in the machine shop

So far: Rotrex Supercharger (16 psi) with WTA intercooler,DW300c fuel pump,565cc Pink injectors
Producing 431bhp and 350 lb/ft torque on the Rotrex SC not finished yet
Raptor headers, 75mm Milltek exhaust with Quad tips,
Custom made 4032 forged pistons by JE Pistons, forged conrods, Exedy Clutch
K sport 8 pot front, 4 pot rears all on 330mm discs, Hel brake lines
Meister R coil overs, Whiteline 21mm rear ARB, Perrin end links and strengthening brackets
Complete Whiteline kit for the front suspension including steering rack
One off Carbon effect Front grill, Carbon lip spoiler, Exterior De-chromed, LED interior light conversion.
Recaro Leather front seats with all functionality.
Waist spoiler, Smoked rear lights,, LED sill plates, LED sidelights
Prodrive PFF7's 18x8, in Bronze shod with 235/40/18 Goodyears.
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Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby crazyricochet » Thu Aug 17, 2017 2:37 am

Keep those updates coming, I enjoy seeing your progress :)
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Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby Spec BSC » Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:54 am

So another little gift on my doorstep when I got home today.

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So the thinking behind this is to get better control of the fueling which your unable to do with the OEM setup. Also the OEM setup has a bit of a weird fuel return system. So with the modified rails the fuel enters via the some pipe on each of the fuel rail. The modification carried out by a good friend who has years of Legacy experience, which, was to remove the 2 damper pots screwed onto the fuel rail and replace them with 2 pipes towards the middle of the rail. All the silver soldering carried out by AS Performance.

We can now use a 3 port FPR and use these new lines to return the fuel to the tank. Better fuel control should help when it comes to mapping.
The first engine died after eating to much CAT
The second engine died of a broken piston
The third engine is in the car
The fourth engine is in the machine shop

So far: Rotrex Supercharger (16 psi) with WTA intercooler,DW300c fuel pump,565cc Pink injectors
Producing 431bhp and 350 lb/ft torque on the Rotrex SC not finished yet
Raptor headers, 75mm Milltek exhaust with Quad tips,
Custom made 4032 forged pistons by JE Pistons, forged conrods, Exedy Clutch
K sport 8 pot front, 4 pot rears all on 330mm discs, Hel brake lines
Meister R coil overs, Whiteline 21mm rear ARB, Perrin end links and strengthening brackets
Complete Whiteline kit for the front suspension including steering rack
One off Carbon effect Front grill, Carbon lip spoiler, Exterior De-chromed, LED interior light conversion.
Recaro Leather front seats with all functionality.
Waist spoiler, Smoked rear lights,, LED sill plates, LED sidelights
Prodrive PFF7's 18x8, in Bronze shod with 235/40/18 Goodyears.
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Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby Spec BSC » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:47 pm

So I have decided to use a different mapper for the final session now booked for the last week in October, with Bob Rawle. This will be live road mapping. The reason for this is that the previous mapper seemed very uninterested in mapping anything other than WOT and as I don't drive my car flat out everywhere, there are some round town driving parameters that defo need a tweek.

The end is in sight (maybe) :lol:
The first engine died after eating to much CAT
The second engine died of a broken piston
The third engine is in the car
The fourth engine is in the machine shop

So far: Rotrex Supercharger (16 psi) with WTA intercooler,DW300c fuel pump,565cc Pink injectors
Producing 431bhp and 350 lb/ft torque on the Rotrex SC not finished yet
Raptor headers, 75mm Milltek exhaust with Quad tips,
Custom made 4032 forged pistons by JE Pistons, forged conrods, Exedy Clutch
K sport 8 pot front, 4 pot rears all on 330mm discs, Hel brake lines
Meister R coil overs, Whiteline 21mm rear ARB, Perrin end links and strengthening brackets
Complete Whiteline kit for the front suspension including steering rack
One off Carbon effect Front grill, Carbon lip spoiler, Exterior De-chromed, LED interior light conversion.
Recaro Leather front seats with all functionality.
Waist spoiler, Smoked rear lights,, LED sill plates, LED sidelights
Prodrive PFF7's 18x8, in Bronze shod with 235/40/18 Goodyears.
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Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby Spec BSC » Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:58 pm

So with only a week to go before the mapping it was time to get the 3 port FPR and modded fuel rails installed.

This proved to be a time consuming and fiddly job mainly due to the poorer access to the crash protection covers over the fuel rails caused by the installation of the charge cooler pipes on one side and the installation of an SC on the other. :lol:

I used up 3m of new fuel pipe and 2m of heat shielding on the runs. When running new pipes you can't be to careful ensuring there is adequate protection to the fuel lines against chaffing and the effects of heat soak. Took about 5 hours to get it where I wanted it. Huge thank you to my friend Martin for all his assistance in getting the modded fuels rails done and in the installation.

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Also in anticipation of the mapping we changed out the oil and oil filter and fitted new spark plugs which had covered 20k miles with the superchargers.

Plugs 1, 3, 5

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Plugs 2, 4, 6

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Looking forward to getting the car sorted so I can finally use the whole rev range and see if we can get the motor to produce 500bhp/370kw, fingers crossed
The first engine died after eating to much CAT
The second engine died of a broken piston
The third engine is in the car
The fourth engine is in the machine shop

So far: Rotrex Supercharger (16 psi) with WTA intercooler,DW300c fuel pump,565cc Pink injectors
Producing 431bhp and 350 lb/ft torque on the Rotrex SC not finished yet
Raptor headers, 75mm Milltek exhaust with Quad tips,
Custom made 4032 forged pistons by JE Pistons, forged conrods, Exedy Clutch
K sport 8 pot front, 4 pot rears all on 330mm discs, Hel brake lines
Meister R coil overs, Whiteline 21mm rear ARB, Perrin end links and strengthening brackets
Complete Whiteline kit for the front suspension including steering rack
One off Carbon effect Front grill, Carbon lip spoiler, Exterior De-chromed, LED interior light conversion.
Recaro Leather front seats with all functionality.
Waist spoiler, Smoked rear lights,, LED sill plates, LED sidelights
Prodrive PFF7's 18x8, in Bronze shod with 235/40/18 Goodyears.
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Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby jslayz » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:03 pm

Where are your dampers.....just reminding you that some cars really do better with them.
Perhaps some in line ones.....like these:

http://www.radiumauto.com/Fuel-Pulse-Damper-In-line-Kits-P751.aspx

Perhaps one of these just before the fuel rail......
CURRENT - ATP GTX 3576 - 22psi - 283.7awkw
OLD - Dom 1.5Xtr - Last dyno 254ahkw, previous 238ahkw, first 224awkw.
My journey thread: http://forum.liberty.asn.au/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=15523
My Lib Pics here: http://forum.liberty.asn.au/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=15523&start=570#p370656
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Re: UK Spec B with Supercharger

Postby Spec BSC » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:43 am

jslayz wrote:Where are your dampers.....just reminding you that some cars really do better with them.
Perhaps some in line ones.....like these:

http://www.radiumauto.com/Fuel-Pulse-Damper-In-line-Kits-P751.aspx

Perhaps one of these just before the fuel rail......


Never heard of these, sound like a good idea, will have to until after mapping. Thanks for the heads up.
The first engine died after eating to much CAT
The second engine died of a broken piston
The third engine is in the car
The fourth engine is in the machine shop

So far: Rotrex Supercharger (16 psi) with WTA intercooler,DW300c fuel pump,565cc Pink injectors
Producing 431bhp and 350 lb/ft torque on the Rotrex SC not finished yet
Raptor headers, 75mm Milltek exhaust with Quad tips,
Custom made 4032 forged pistons by JE Pistons, forged conrods, Exedy Clutch
K sport 8 pot front, 4 pot rears all on 330mm discs, Hel brake lines
Meister R coil overs, Whiteline 21mm rear ARB, Perrin end links and strengthening brackets
Complete Whiteline kit for the front suspension including steering rack
One off Carbon effect Front grill, Carbon lip spoiler, Exterior De-chromed, LED interior light conversion.
Recaro Leather front seats with all functionality.
Waist spoiler, Smoked rear lights,, LED sill plates, LED sidelights
Prodrive PFF7's 18x8, in Bronze shod with 235/40/18 Goodyears.
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